I was under that impression after the fiasco earlier this year that the STC was being sold for development. To support that it was the furore created by residents and supporters (with the excellent letter from Rev) that stopped this.

But Gav spending an incredible amount of money you don't have and P&S are intrinsically linked. Let's just assume we weren't at the ridiculous levels of outgoings and it was at a manageable proportion of say 110% of income. That would equate to around £6m less expenditure season on season by my rough calculation. If the spend was managed better we wouldn't be in the ridiculous situation whereby a new company is set up to purchase the training ground to circumvent the P&S rules. And the responsibility for spending a huge amount season on season lies with the people on the ground at Ewood and the owners. In any other business any manager going over budget would be reeled in but at Rovers the wanton spending has been allowed to continue unabated (although in fairness that could apply to lots of football clubs).

I don't think it's the transfer fees that have caused the main problem. I think it's a lot more to do with spending massively above income, 187% last year. Roughly that equates to around £8m last year and similar amounts for previous seasons. The whole management team of Rovers are culpable here. And a big chunk of that has been spent on dross and needless contract extensions.

Which is exactly why I have no faith or trust in them. It's been nigh on eleven years now and still we have insidious people involved, veils of secrecy and sheer incompetence. Twas ever thus.

Agreed and everyone should under no illusion that, had they got their way the STC would now be a building site and everyone shoehorned into the Academy. They would have taken the money from a developer in a heartbeat. Now, instead of banking a huge amount from a third party it has cost them a fortune to set up a new company and buy the STC themselves. It could well be above board and with good intentions but given their track record frankly I don't believe that. All this speculation could be put to bed in one fell swoop but as ever the silence is deafening and that adds to my mistrust of them.

In April/May the STC was up for sale to property developers. Fast forward a few weeks and they set up a new company to buy the STC. This just doesn't feel right. Had they been half decent owners it might have been accepted. Given their history it's perfectly in order to be suspicious of their motives. Why on earth has there been a complete silence from them or their representatives since it was sold in June? Despite the condescending recent letter from one of them nothing has changed.

It's exactly how the club is run that has out people off going. It's all self inflicted and the indisputable fact they are putting millions in is down to themselves. They bought an established institution and have decimated it and we, the fans have paid a heavy price. The promised to respect Jacks legacy.

That's some moral high ground you have taken for someone who actually boycotted. I don't blame anybody whatsoever for not going. Life under these owners has mostly been a decade of purgatory. To try and pin some of the blame on supporters for players not signing new deals is ridiculous.

The only benefit to them that I can see is that it would be to save the circa £15-20m they are putting in every year. That simply can't go on indefinitely can it? On your second point it makes it even more mysterious to me.

That makes so much sense to me as a layman. If Blackburn Rovers were put into administration then Brockhall would be exempt because Blackburn Rovers don't own it. Maybe the car parks at Ewood will go the same way.

I don't know the ins and outs of this but what I do know is that I treat the owners, Waggott et al with suspicion. That is borne out of over a decade of misery and mistrust.

A really enjoyable listen. Is there a part two?

Tonight's under 23 game is free for season ticket holders. https://www.rovers.co.uk/news/2021/october/25/preview--rovers-under-23s-v-liverpool-under-23s/

Mowbray also made disparaging comments publicly about Rothwell after a game at Sheffield Wednesday a couple of years ago.

He is as likely to get a new deal as get sacked. We have irrational, ignorant, illogical and unpredictable owners who don't have a clue.

Three points is always the objective so no real gripes from me today. A poor quality first half was much of a muchness with both teams struggling for any fluidity. Goals change games and thank goodness for us getting it. I thought it was a good goal with Rothwell at the heart of it as he was with most of the good things we did. The second was sublime and from our view it was in as soon as it left Dolans foot. He almost repeated it shortly after but their keeper made a great save. A real worry going forward has to be the injuries to Nyambe and Ayala. The result doesn't change my feelings about Mowbray one iota.

He did Andy.

I used to find Andy that good administrators/secretaries were invariably the glue that holds everything together at schoolboy and parks level. Mike was thorough and meticulous in all my dealing with him. Hopefully the book does really well for him. Didn't Mike also write a book on the history of BwD schoolboys?

I know Mike (although I didn't associate him with this book until I saw his face) through his involvement in local schools football. I used to referee a lot of schoolboy games and Mike was a terrific administrator and organiser. He forged a really strong link with Blackburn Referees Association and from memory they never played a game without an affiliated referee. I am going to buy this as it appears that it will be a good read.

And the then Family Stand looks to be full. Thank you Venkys.

https://www.lancs.live/sport/football/football-news/blackburn-rovers-team-news-pickering-21938142 Another contradiction from our main man. From the article speaking about Travis: “Travis will put his boots on and see how he is. He’s got a dead leg and has been hobbling, he will tell me he’s fit but I will decide if he’s fit or not" I recall an interview from the not too distant past where he said he lets the player decide whether they are fit enough to play.

A rambling, nonsensical load of bollocks . He talks about the owners 'investing' £20m a year. They are throwing it down a black hole and he is helping them.

I have never described them as the worst ever owners but in my footballing life they are in the top six. That's some achievement for billionaires.

Since they rocked up the local economy has taken a hit. At a rough (lower) estimate there would be around 50,000 away supporters visiting Ewood over the course of a season in the Premier League. Many of these bought food and drink not just in the Ewood area. I have seen away fans coaches parked in Darwen where they have booked into pubs and clubs. There is a heavy price to pay for abject failure.

It's another Thursday and once again it's time for Mowbrays Mutterings in his weekly press conference. I wonder what pearls he will come out with, whether the local hacks will ask any searching questions and how much he will praise Reading. I await with baited breath.