It's about supply and demand though surely. Most of the examples quoted can charge extra because they mostly sell out. I think the majority of complainants are saying that Rovers should be doing every thing they possible can to get people in the ground. I guess the only way to prove it one way or another is by doing away with it for a trial period and see what effect that has on sales and attendances.

Part three. https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/11553296/sky-bet-championship-fans-rate-their-season-so-far-part-three-reading-to-wigan-athletic

Part two of fans appraisals of the season so far. https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/11553208/sky-bet-championship-fans-rate-their-season-so-far-part-two-ipswich-town-to-qpr

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/11553132/sky-bet-championship-fans-rate-their-season-so-far-part-one-aston-villa-to-hull It's difficult to argue with the Rovers correspondent.

From my point of view it's an example of the club trying to squeeze another few quid out of generally loyal supporters. As I said it's not the money but the principal. I'd like to see the membership numbers from last year to this. Perhaps they can be requested at one of the fan group meetings. At the moment I'm considering going to watch Accrington on Saturday. In the past I have got my tickets at 2.30 on the day of the game. If I had to pay any more than face value I simply wouldn't go. I know the Chief Executive there and he knows the walk on numbers would be severely depleted if they charged any extra.

I don't understand why people can't grasp this point. Last season the half dozen or so people I go with all joined primarily because it gave us pretty much first dibs on low allocation away games which we knew would sell out. I can't speak for everyone but none of us have joined this season as we are pretty sure we will get tickets for any game we want. And as another matter of principle we didn't join because Rovers saw fit to increase the cost by 100%. It's not the money for us, it's the unjustified increase and Rovers trying to abuse our loyalty.

It sounds like Rovers are making it more of a deterrent by imposing the 'surcharge' to me. As for costing the club more I just don't get it. The only extra expense I can see is paying staff to man the ticket booths. Hopefully it can be brought up at one of the future meetings with fans groups and the reasoning can come straight from the horse's mouth.

Did I read that Rovers were about to go contactless? If they have surely a pay on the day turnstile (or several) would be an ideal solution. I heard that one of the reasons they don't want cash turnstiles is down to security (and trust?). I would wager that the vast majority of people who buy late tickets pay by debit card anyway.

I really thought there was an element of complacency about our first half performance. Too ponderous and slow, players wanting too many touches on the ball and a few not looking as if they were up for it. I suspect Mowbray roasted them at half-time as there was a distinct change in the intensity. Normally we convert a decent ratio of chances created but today we simply didn't as we should have been out of sight before Rotherhams only effort on target. I thought Rodwell and Lenihan were really good and Nyambe bombed on like he has never done before. Bell worries me. He has so many attributes but decision making isn't one of them. Graham and Dack could have been sat with me but in fairness Dack came to life in the last twenty minutes. I also thought some of the posts on here were complacent and over confident. I honestly don't think we will hammer anybody in this league as it doesn't seem to be in the team's DNA.

No Travis or Nuttall playing last night. That indicates they will be part of today's squad.

I was being diplomatic. ?

No disrespect mate but why do what seems like a lot of your posts have some veiled references to hooliganism and fighting. I can't speak for everyone but I find them tedious but more importantly pointless.

I foresee another match similar to last week where the visitors are content to slow the tempo of the game at every opportunity. We either need an early goal or a referee who is switched on enough to stop this. Hopefully another three points to take us into the early Winter break on a high.

Hopefully Den you will see enough effort and commitment (and a win!) to give you a decision to make for future games.

The last train out of Euston to Manchester leaves at 9.00 pm. However instead of the usual 2 hours 10 minutes it takes over two and a half hours. With a senior railcard the price is £30.20 and the NCP close by is £3.50.

Hardly been any stiff competition though has there? Agnes, Hunt, Singh, Shaw and Senior (maybe not all Chief Execs in job title but running the show nonetheless) aren't hard acts to follow. I really don't know what Waggott has done yet to be held in such high esteem.

I thought the idea of England friendlies was to try some of the promising youngsters. Mason Mount will probably miss out on winning a cap through this idiocy. It devalues the prestige and honour of playing for England. Once again the FA show how they have little or no understanding of how the majority of football fans in this country think. This is a man who has been sent off twice whilst playing for England and publicly criticised the England fans who were in South Africa who had the temerity to boo the team after a dreadful performance. His rap sheet off the field makes interesting reading too. Shame on them.

Over the last two games Williams has probably been our best player and these were two extremely tough games from a defensive point of view. He does seem better suited to central defence where he isn't expected to bomb forward in open play like he is at left back.

Although Dack probably should have been cautioned by the inept referee when he threw the ball at Lynch (I think it was) I was quite pleased he did. His frustration and anger showed he cares and really fired him up. The win was satisfying from many perspectives but one that pleased me was that QPR's clear spoiling tactics ultimately didn't work. The delaying of nearly every restart was a deliberate ploy typified by the Dingle Wells who stood over the ball several times to prevent us taking quick free kicks. That said it probably worked for us in a perverse way as the referee couldn't take any action against us when the boot was on the other foot after the goal.

I was too but he kept calm and got the next best thing, a corner. That gave us the opportunity to run the clock and keeping the ball in that corner for nigh on two minutes was a sight to behold.

Probably our worst performance of the season yet one of the best results. QPR were really difficult opponents with two solid banks of four/five and spoiling tactics. We had several players off the pace but showed resilience and attitude once again. I like games like this when we win because that's the name of the game. I thought Lenihan and Williams were outstanding today.

That could be the case regarding the fee but lots of fees are paid that way and have been for years. Jack Walker actually charged Newcastle interest as they paid in instalments. I'd be surprised if Bradenton wasn't in the middle bracket earners on £10 - £15k per week. He will also have had a significant signing on free paid in instalments. As the players you mentioned are all contracted it is unlikely they would be given a rise if we brought somebody in on more money (unless a clause affords them parity with a higher earner). If anybody at the club agreed to such a clause they should be sacked.

You are correct that every signing is a risk. That is what many are saying about Brereton aligned to the fact that £7m is a hell of a lot of money for us to risk.

You missed my point. The debt has (or will) increase by up to £7m if he were to regress. I'm not blaming him, far from it. The blame will lie with whoever agreed it. Of course his value could increase but both scenarios have to be looked at. My other point is that for £7m a club in our position should have bought the finished article, not waiting for somebody to develop and playing a bit part every now and then.

I remember that quote from the statement when they bought us (along with the one were they would ABSOLUTELY respect the legacy of Jack Walker). Since then we/they have spunked millions on has beens and dross, many of them definitely not young. If you are trying to second guess their motives then good luck but for me that ship sailed many years ago.