Nailed it.

Yep. Steve/Suhail.

It seems pretty obvious permanent fees have been blocked. We just seem to want to flush our money away completely albeit at a slower rate on loan fees. Outward deals seem to go through no problem as well.

Especially not from GB.

Not sure if it's actionable per se BUT I was surprised any agents/players were still prepared to deal with us after we left O Brien hanging without a Club for ages. In the case of Mcguire, the guy has got on a plane from the US in good faith. Had the permanent deal he thought he'd agreed snatched away from him mid flight, then been forced to go and talk to a other Club. We've then somehow persuaded him to come back and accept a loan deal instead he's come back to complete the formalities and thought it was done and dusted. He's attended the game today and it appears we've fucked up again and despite more money wasted on a no doubt fruitless appeal the poor player will probably eventually have to get back on a plane several days later. Players/agents won't touch us with a bargepole at this rate.

I know its not a popular point of view but I didn't really think the owners pulled the OBrien deal last year after giving it the go ahead in the first place and I definitely don't think that they would (having seemingly put a block on permanent deals for players, and therefore having specifically authorised a substitute loan deal for the same player) then pull the loan deal as well. For me it's either a case of colossal incompetence or someone worried about meeting their annual targets is deliberately sabotaging these deals. Either seem equally plausible and no prizes for guessing the most likely culprit if the second scenario

I was going to take 20/1 a few week ago and didn't.

Right then let's have Waggott running up and giving us yet another almighty kick in the knackers. Mcguire....in or out?

The one thing that won't be reduced is his salary.

Not that it matters but I think Silvester predates the Venky's regime. Could be wrong.

I said when Mowbray/Venus were here. Its not a Football Club any more, it's just a place where people go to earn money. I think JDT would have liked to have changed that. Sadly it looks like the bustards have finally ground him down.

Sorry to hear that Mike it's often worse than losing a relative at least, they're always pleased to see you. Unconditional love.

It's more important where the move leaves us. Not in a good way by the sounds of it.

But it was a good move for him.....

Get down to the ground you're only a mile and a half away! Hope you're soon feeling better.

A draw is probably a slightly better result for us than them but I would still prefer a 7-6 win!

He's on about me.

Beep beep beep..... "Caution Tommy Reversing" Beep beep "Caution"

If there's a problem he doesn't seem to be aware of it.......yet.

At the moment I can't see this being anything other than a formality but if there's any truth in it it would explain why they're not letting JDT anywhere near a camera. There's only one penny pinching employee who would be kiboshing feals internally IF there's any truth in this.

Not many attacking options off the bench should we need them. If we want to switch to 4 centre halves though we should be fine!

But.....but Gregg's a good 'un!!

You're merely playing with words there. They're not protecting him at all, they're worried about what he might say. Also if he needs "protecting" in the first place that in itself tends to suggest its been a calamitous window which in turn would you think lead to him being extremely unhappy.

Don't give Waggott a free pass Gav. They ALL need calling out and firing off.

Some sort of international clearance issue maybe?