RevidgeBlue

Absolutely. No way that was a penalty in a million years. Southgate must have a lucky horseshoe wedged a mile up his backside after Bellingham's worldie with 80 seconds to go against Slovakia and that penalty decision last night. Better to be a lucky manager than a good one? Let's hope our insanely good luck lasts for one more game. Imo we could do with changing Kane and Rice who I thought were both very disappointing last night but he probably won't change anything so we'll just have to hope for the best and that the players pull us out of the mire with a couple of individual moments like they've been doing all tournament.

My word. Prize for most ridiculous post ever made on this forum goes to............ Gave me a good laugh anyway. A glittering career in comedy awaits you.

What rubbish. We've completely fluked it to this stage, in the process winning only one game out of five against teams way below us in the rankings. The criticism aimed at Southgate has been fairly constructive in the main based on tactics and the way We've played. I've not seen any personal abuse of the sort aimed at the likes of Graham Taylor yet conversely Southgate however has turned into a right mard arse making out you're not allowed to criticise him and the players. If we'd played well and reached this stage everyone would have been falling over themselves to say how brilliant he was. I don't suppose he'd have been complaining then.

Will take that story with a pinch of salt but if true, then yeah, because obviously there's an Adam Wharton round every corner. Not.

Each to their own but I think the situation at the Club over the last 12 months or so has gone way beyond that where you adopting a stance of "Critical friend" is required. Is there anything specific to lead you to think there will be a change of ownership? Prior to the recent shift in the financial landscape I wouldn't necessarily have expected a change in my lifetime (I'm 60) and even now I think they may try to ride things out.

Devil's Advocate Mode: The training ground is SUPPOSED to be still owned by the Club for all intents and purposes, the transfer of the training ground was SUPPOSED to be an accounting tool to get round FFP requirements for that season due to money from the Armstrong? transfer coming in late. Guess we'll only know when the Club is sold which I'm still not convinced is imminently on the horizon. Have to agree though, the plan appears to be selling off all the assets and Waggott has been doing a passable job of running us into the ground ever since he walked through the door.

OK thanks. I had seen that before but it didn't really register properly. So £4m Instead of £1m on every £20m sent over? A £3m difference. Might be the crux of the matter.

I have it in the back of my mind from the PL days that the more glamorous Clubs charge a fee for their attendance at friendlies. I may be imagining that though.

That's all well and good but we'd be 27 goals down.

Is that something that came in as a blanket regulation in India non specific to Venkys and if so when did it come into force?

I mean I thought the reason Wharton was sold for tuppence ha'penny was that the Court hearing was adjourned. The fact the case was adjourned is not in dispute is it? However If as you claim they can't fund, and are given permission to do so by the Court in August, free of any stipulation to provide a supporting bond then any pretence they are willing and able to fund will be laid bare. Conversely if there is still a requirement for a supporting bond then there is no way of disproving what Jackson says and as far as we're concerned it's splitting hairs. Either way we don't get funded.

Good old chaddy. Chief Entertainments Officer on the Titanic.

Where has that come from?

Based on what? We seemingly cant even put forward attractive enough deals to persuade McFadzean and Fleck to re-sign! (Not that I'd be in favour of re-signing either personally and in particular I wouldn't touch Fleck with a barge pole but it shows just how low we are setting our sights)

Mike Graham will be gutted, didnt he say Fraser Read was "a credit to the Club" and we were "lucky to have him" ? We have so many "Heads" of different things I'm not sure if anyone individually can possibly be left with very much to do. We'll have a head of handing the pencils out and making sure they're safely returned at the end of the day soon. Not bad for a Club that seemingly can't afford to sign any players

Champions League players but a manager who bombed at Middlesbrough despite being heavily backed, getting them relegated from the PL then getting sacked whilst they were in the Championship. That's the problem.

Was it not stated in the FF minutes that a lift in one of the Executive Areas needed replacing? Seemingly can't afford any players but at least we have our priorities right.

Yep, if it did turn out to be France against England, one of the two sides is going to have to try to come out of their shells a bit otherwise the loser is going to get slaughtered. And rightly so imo given the players on display.

Correct, but if you're going to stink the place out, the end has to justify the means and you HAVE to lift the Trophy.

Pretty much nailed it there. In general under Southgate as soon as We've played a "top" team We've been beaten which I would put down to a combination of his innate caution and lack of proactiveness during games rather than the quality of our players. The guy must wear a life jacket in the bath.

My mate who went to the game tried to explain what happened and as I understood it Tyjon came on and was brought off again then we tried to bring him on again in the second half as though nothing had happened. I've never heard anything like it in my life. Talk about unprofessional. Maybe we should have asked Accy if if it was OK if we fielded 13 or 14 players to their 11. After all it's only a friendly.........

No **** Sherlock. What's your point exactly?

The bloke up front who "can't run" scored about 35 goals for Bayern last season so someone must be able to get a tune out of him. Stones and Guehi have arguably been out best performers. Walker is top class and it's Southgate's fault he didn't pick a fit left footed left back in the squad. After that if you can't get a tune out of the likes of Bellingham, Rice, Saka, Foden, Palmer, Toney etc you're probably in the wrong job.

I think in terms of quality it's been the poorest tournament I can remember. Some of the smaller teams like Georgia, Turkey and Austria have been a breath of fresh air but none of the traditional "big guns" have really fired with the exception of Spain and to a limited extent Germany. What's the reason for this? A lot of people will claim the teams are all burnt out but I'd say a major reason is the demise of the traditional old fashioned striker who just wants to get into scoring positions and find the back of the net. Most teams have been loath to shoot and guilty of taking at least one pass too many and on the rare occasions when a dangerous ball has flashed across the area no-one has been looking to get on the end of it. When a team has finally attempted a shot, by and large the technique and quality of strike has been dreadful and of course attacking play hasn't been aided either by the ridiculous practice of VAR chalking off goals for toe nail offsides.

Not better than the original "Golden Generation" who completely flopped maybe but in general terms yes. Since the Premier League took off and financially dwarfed all the other domestic Leagues we have players playing week in week out in what I would class as the best League in the world in the sense it's by far the most competitive.