Very funny. It's not like we've just come up with the move from scratch in the last 24-48 hours though, its been on the go for three weeks.

Tend to agree Jim, seems a rather pointless signing when We're so short in other key areas. Pile him up over there with all the midfielders.

I was wondering that, not checked the transfer news for a couple of days and checked last night and was surprised to see the transfer news regarding us was Reed not Brereton. Strange once again how the cheap loan deal can get done almost overnight but the major deal which involves spending decent money eventually, can't

Thought it felt pretty good for most of last season to be fair.

I thought that last time we were in the Championship really. Never saw more than one or two outstanding sides over several seasons. Ironically Brentford under Warburton looked as good as anyone giving us a footballing lesson when Bowyer was here. You could also argue There's a lot of mediocrity in the lower reaches of the Premier League as well. Bit early to be getting too carried away, if We're still in 5th or 6th at Christmas I might have a different view. These early points we are accumuting are absolute gold dust though whether we hit a lean spell and fall away a bit or keep it going and covet ambitions of sneaking into the playoffs towards the end of the Sea so.

And.....TM seems to rate them! ☺️

Was a game that could have gone either way wouldn't you say? They smacked the crossbar from close range 1st half, Raya made two great saves second half and the woodwork came to our aid again whereas we only had one serious effort on goal and scored from it. But who cares as we battled superbly.

Yup. Here's hoping.

I wouldn't but I imagine Tony will.

Strange definition of "nothing to do." He kept us in the game with one absolutely outstanding save and one very good one. I'd have given him MOM but you couldn't argue with Bennett getting it either, he was terrific 2nd half and is so much better in the middle than out wide.

Much better second half, we scored with probably our only serious effort of the game but who cares, we battled ferociously second half and showed great character. Absolutely massive 3 points that which for the first time this season affords us a bit of wiggle room and the longer we can stay unbeaten the more confidence will build. The turning point of the game came seconds before the goal. Raya produced an absolutely outstanding save to tip a long range effort onto the post. The ball broke up the other end and Rothwell produced a moment of real inspiration to produce a fantastic crossfield ball round the corner to put (Nyambe?) away. The keeper made a save but the ball broke to Palmer for a simple tap in from the middle of the area. We've done really well to grind out nine points with both the obvious deficiencies in the squad exacerbated by injuries to Dack and Armstrong. Be interesting to see what we can so if Brereton comes in and is half decent, we can keep Dack fit and we could bring in a skilful Wideman. Well to to TM and the team for a very hard fought 3 points today.

Poor half. Without Dack we lack any sort of spark or creativity going forward. We could still do with Chapman badly imo.

They have been playing exceptionally well and if Villa hadn't managed an injury time equaliser they'd have had ten points from four games. Much depends upon whether Dack and Palmer are available and fully fit for me. If not I would expect to be given a bit of a run around.

"Waiting for Waggott" ? Bravo Sir! Post of the year. Hope that isn't the epitaph for this window in a week's time If nothing much happens.

Wonder who the Premier League player who was out of contract that unsall thought might be in before weekend was? Looks like that hasn't happened either.

Bizarre isn't it Stuart. Its ok if he's crap and we completely waste our money on him (and he potentially upsets the dressing room) because we aren't wasting a lot on him.

Come off it. What list must he be off? We must be some way past the Z list by now and back on AAand BB etc. After the generally positive reaction to the signing of RodwellI I think if we were linked with Bradley Orr and Leon Best someone would come on here trying to defend it and saying "Trust Tony" and if it was good enough for him it's good enough for them.

Cheers. Strange. Don't have any recollection of their first season at all.

Sorry I was a bit slow off the mark there! Is my mind playing tricks on me re Villa? This season coming up will only be their second in the Championship won't it? How can they be in year 3 of FFP?

They didn't. They drew 2-2.

Doesn't have a low opinion of himself then - surely given his recent past a bit of humility and contrition would have been slightly more advisable and the better line would have been to say that he Didn't expect to walk straight into a team that did so well last season and he would have to fight for his place etc. On a general note I don't really understand why many people don't want to take a relatively cheap punt on Chapman because he's had a couple of injuries, yet because we have actually signed Rodwell it's apparently now ok to completely disregard his injury record and if it Doesn't come off That's ok as well because it is supposedly a similarly cheap punt.

You're probably right that the Brereton deal is dead in the water TM spoke roughly a week ago about moving on from certain deals because they were too expensive, I took him to mean Brereton by that. There's still nothing to contradict the assertion we haven't got a lot to piss in is there? We still haven't signed anyone for a decent fee with just a week of the loan window to go, it's looking increasingly likely that We're not going to get the players in the positions we need, at best we're only going to end up with someone fairly dreadful on loan and now it transpires that quite possibly we Didn't even make a bid for Brereton at all on deadline day. (Not that it particularly matters whether we did or we didn't as there wasn't physically time to complete the deal anyway.) Can't help thinking that as fans We've completely been led up the garden path this summer. If there wasn't any money available they should have just said so from the off. Can't imagine TM is very happy with the way things have transpired, I'm sure he genuinely believed players would be coming in and was only passing on what he'd been told by the "recruitment department" when he made his weekly predictions about varying numbers of players coming in and big money still to be spent etc.

Horrendous signing for me, whatever the sound of the bottom of an extremely deep barrel being scraped sounds like, I think We've just heard it with this deal. Maybe the deal has to be put into context in a week's time when all our other business has been done. However at the moment it smacks of sheer desperation and trying to get a body in through the door for the sake of it having missed out on all our legitimate targets. I don't buy all this "it's a cheap low risk option" nonsense. What he is being paid is largely irrelevant. If players are brought in who don't perform that can send you down and that's a massive risk. Some players come in with a proven track record and /or massive potential and you are excited when they sign. The majority you don't really know too much about and they come with a clean slate. This lad unfortunately has it all to prove both in terms of fitness and character.

Rothwell and Rodwell in. Only Roswell and Rockwell to go.

Knowing our luck it will be the one time he is right.