But they aren’t going to - it’s highly likely that the family’s ownership of the club will outlive the majority of us. Her son has been groomed to take over for some time, spends almost every home game watching from Jack’s old suite. It’s wasted energy calling for the owners to leave; they won’t. What is more pressing is the immediate failing of the team and the lack of spine running through it. And the management team has to taken responsibility for that.

Fuck right off. Rotherham. Literally no excuses, this is pathetic.

As annoyed I am at how spineless we’ve been, I will say that JRC has been pretty good again at right back. Not that much use when you’re 0-2 down against the worst team in the league, but I’ll take any crumb of positive at this stage.

Aside from the fact that this isn’t going to happen, we need more pressing changes.

This is disgraceful.

Plenty of the ball, but it seems the tactic is ‘get it to Dack and hope he produces magic’. Problem with that is, most of the team are not on his wavelength or ability level. I do like Gallagher in general, but he’s been woeful today. Heavier touch than usual and should have buried the 1-on-1. Just bite the bullet, stick Dolan and Markanday on at HT; 3 points is right there for us in this game, Rotherham offer nothing.

To be fair, teams from Lithuania (and the like) qualify for the CL each season too, doesn't make them a necessarily attractive proposition. If Cantwell has any ambition to play at the top level, he'd surely prefer to excel in the Championship than north of the border. I'd take him - he's still young enough, change of scenery would hopefully help him, he's shown that he has excellent ability and we're surely make a chunky profit on him after a couple of seasons.

I mean, you're entitled to have an opinion, obviously. But this is genuinely just baffling...

Really good first half, for me. We've been sharp and positive when in possession; far from perfect but a lot better than some recent performances (Boro 1st half aside). Trav seems to have picked up a bit, all of the defence have been solid, Dack showing his quality again and even before he'd scored, I thought Vale was doing well. I know it's a low bar, but he's light years ahead of Hirst.

To be fair, I don't know anybody who knows what a hard day's eoyy to k is. 😄

This times a hundred. Maybe its overspilling frustration from last season, where we ultimately missed out on a top 6 place, having spent most of the season there. The football has been mostly dire, but we have been churning out results - enough results to see us comfortably 3rd, in January. I couldn't attend whilst Kean was here, I just couldn't trust myself not to run towards the dugout and nut the bald prick. We've had the 'going nowhere' years under the likes of Bowyer and the short term managers (Berg/Appleton/etc). But right now, we have a bright young manager and (seemingly) a proper recruitment process in place. The squad is mostly young and developing and we have an excellent chance for top 6 again this year. To me, talk of potting JDT and heading back into the managerial wastelands of Ainsworth and that ilk is absolute, bonafide madness. I honestly can't comprehend that way of thinking.

Important point. At the moment, JDT is using what he has available to him, to accumulate as many points as he can. It's not always pretty, but we're very organised at the back, which is always the ideal starting position for any new coaching team (start with the defence and build forward). And, as we're sitting pretty comfortably 3rd (and have been for a while), it's hard to argue that it's not effective. He's said all along, judge him after 3 transfer windows. We're just starting the second of those now and if we can get more 'Hyams' in, I'm looking forward to seeing how we develop. But patience is key. I'm still absolutely flabbergasted by anyone genuinely shouting for JDT to go after a few months; I can not see any logic in tearing up the last few months, all of the future plans and starting again with an unknown. Madness.

Agree on JRC, he’s been tidy on the ball, took up some good defensive positions and has been aggressive off the ball. Glad to see the red has been appealed; it’s clearly a ludicrous decisions and if it’s not overturned, the FA have defended the indefensible. I wasn’t wanting to share this, as I hate the ‘I’m not sharing my source’ thing. But I'm not sharing my source for reasons of confidentiality (shared some info a number of years ago on the Rovers site forum and almost got somebody at the club the sack, so I won’t do it again). Feel free to disregard, it genuinely matters not to me. But the Adam Wharton stuff is plainly untrue. He should be playing more, totally, but none of the ‘clash with the manager’ happened.

And yet we’ll still be higher than the other two teams / new managers that were mentioned in the post that I’d replied to. We can’t say, for example, Mowbray has done well to get Sunderland into the top 6 in a few months and criticise our similarly new manager, whilst we sit above them.

And we are sitting third…?

This times a thousand. Shouting for the manager’s head after a few poor results, yet we remain very high in the league, is ludicrous. Performances on the whole haven’t been good, but we can’t ignore the positive performances either. We as a support are better than that.

Wow. 1st half was very good. Conceded early in the second, but the red card is what’s killed us here. I’m pretty sure JDT’s instructions to Buckley at HT wasn’t ‘go and get yourself sent off nice and early lad’.

That is never a red in a million years. The fact that it’ll be overturned immediately will be indication of that. And now 1-2. Such a shame after that good first half.

One of the best moves and phases of play I’ve seen from us this season, lovely.

Really good first half, against a very much in-form team. JRC has been really good again, Pickering continuing to be consistently solid on the other side also. I’d have Adam Wharton in instead of Morton, if I’m honest, but I think Bucko has been very good tonight - see the difference between how comfortable he is on the ball and his vision versus when Travis plays there. And Dack’s quality shows every time he plays. Thought large chunks of the play in that half were a lot easier on the eye than a lot of performances this season; hopefully that’s JDT’s style starting to finally show.

Why so much hate for the ‘project’ thing? Jack himself admitted that is winning the league was a project - one we achieved a year ahead of his plans. Seems sensible to me to have a plan/strategy for year-on-year improvement. As nice as it’d be to have everything right now (or results and performances), but that’s not how life works. Anyway, fingers crossed for 3 points tonight, with some winnable games ahead of us. A real chance to build on the points tally garnered so far.

This gives me cause for optimism; whenever I notice you write something like this, we win comfortably. It's the Championship, as much as we can look at stats,, form, xG and all of that gubbins, these games are as variable and unpredictable as they come. We're at home and have been very strong under JDT at Ewood, so hoping for a continuation of that form. Couldn't care less how well we play as long as we leave with the 3 points. Another Darragh OG would be nice to get us motoring...

Today's performance wasn't good enough and you have to be beating the newly promoted sides, if you have any ambitions of a top-6 finish. However, the table doesn't lie and if you're 3rd in the league, with over half of the season gone, it's absolutely not 'fluke', or because everyone else is shit. It's because we've found a way to win enough games to put us third. Which, in a new manager's first season, having had to replace some key members of the first team and introduce a new style of play, is extremely impressive. We (as fans) tend to swing from one extreme to the other; I've seen both 'we're going up' and also, more bizarrely 'we'll be in a relegation fight' in recent weeks and the truth is neither. Like it or not, we're in a transition season and need to manage our expectations accordingly.

I'm not sure about the last bit - the win at Norwich in our last game (with first team players in the side) showed a hungry and motivated side. You can't read too much into a load of reserve jobbers being beaten tonight. What now happens on Monday is the important bit, though I do agree on it being a shitshow for the fans who turned up tonight.

Wharton literally at fault for all 4 goals (and scored the other).