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But he has been churning out trophy after trophy in that time. Palmer himself forced the exit. Players that with regular game time elsewhere turn into stars are just collateral damage. Rogers has taken years of regular football to get to where he is now. The player that joined Boro was miles away.

Watched Newcastle last night against a poor United side, and theyve been on a few times this season. If Gordon is England's first choice left winger then its a problem. Quick but so poor in the final third, has been all season.

They wouldnt have played, especially Rogers. The Rogers that left and went to Boro (?) would not have had a sniff around Foden, KDB etc. So he wouldnt have come on as he has done going elsewhere. Even Palmer would have been slower getting into a team with such quality so wouldnt have come on as much.

Obviously the correct treatment is to not include them. My point is, you and others are pointing out his good man management and the great team spirit. I dont see how there is any evidence or foundation to use that as a positive specifically to attribute to Ismael. In fact, players within the squad not training properly, not giving 100% in games or being questioned outside of football would if anything be red flags. The main barometer for any manager is results. Ismael's overall have been poor. Obviously with him being currently employed by the club, besides a very brief blip last season, you will go on full unequivocal propaganda mode.

For a start, he isnt very good in the air. Even when he wins it, it isnt particularly accurate. I dont think hes good enough to be the main central defender. I think he is more suited to the left side.

And subsequently they wouldnt have been the players they are today had they stayed. People often mention it as if they let current day Rogers and Palmer leave. Not quite the same but there are similarities with Raya here. He was let go on the cheap but had be stayed, he certainly wouldnt have developed into who he is today, after 7 or 8 years in the Premier League, training with top class players and coaches etc.

Im not sure he has fully united the dressing room. I think youd have to go back to the Murphy/Etuhu days where it was clear that 100% wasnt being put in. But we have had problems of players not training properly this season according to Ismael himself, seemingly wasters like Gueye and Tavares. Also Kargbo not bothering to track back leading to a goal, public comments about Carter's preparation. There have definitely been performances full of grit and real character but also ones showing a real fragility. I certainly wouldnt be able to commit to bigging up Ismael's man management as a positive. There is certainly a lot of merit to the argument that he has been left with a poor and imbalanced squad, even if he has seemingly played a big part in endorsing the players hes been left with. And he isnt in the Kean and Coyle category. But I certainly havent been impressed with or warmed to his management overall.

He has never scored more than 2 goals in a single season. Any screamers were very much the exception so are a strange area to focus on. I think Travis was a good player and has been missed but he isnt this all rounder you suggest. He cannot protect the defence or read the game as well as Tronstad and isnt as good on the ball. Travis was more athletic and got about the pitch more although he isnt the same type of player. You suggest that the stats back you up, what stats? Tronstad does a very specific role, he sits in front of the defence, he keeps the play ticking, he reads the game really well and he is essentially the glue in our team. We play much better and do better when he plays. 2 players of a similar style (obviously elite players) are Busquets and Makelele, neither ran all over the pitch and neither made it to 20 career goals. Did they hold their teams back as limited and peripheral players?

If we were stupid enough to repeat the mistake of putting any reliance on Carter and Wharton then we deserve the inevitable spell of being short that will occur. We are short not only of regularly available numbers but of quality and balance. We need someone to slot into the middle of the back 3, essentially (I know we played a different formation, but in terms of quality) a massively overdue Hyam replacement.

Im not twisting anything. Youve dominated the thread doing everything you can to deflect and divert blame away from the club. I also find your consistent desire to know whether I am attending every game when its totally irrelevant to be a little strange. But no, I am not going.

But how is it relevant to us? We wouldnt be signing Kyogo. Dykes is behind him, Duksch and Stansfield in the pecking order. If you are using a failed signing who has scored 0 goals as a benchmark to prove that an alternative is good, then that would be incredibly low standards. My opinion on Dykes spans across a career of an inability to score many goals. We were linked a couple of years ago (was more Nixon bullshit) and I was against it then. He hasnt done anything since to change my mind.

Because I have seen it happen time and time again. And like many, I feel like I have enough historical evidence to predict the most likely outcome of the upcoming transfer window. If you choose to keep your head in the sand and refuse to predict, thats fine, but theres no reason to try and stop me from sharing my opinion. If you dont see any point predicting, fine, just scroll past. Unsure as to why you are so fixated on a random signing from another Championship club, yes Kyogo has been a crap signing, youve mentioned it a few times with little context or links to current discussion. Dykes has not scored many goals across his entire career.

Its a starter that we need, to play in the middle, after losing Hyam. We would then have McLaughlin and Pratt on the left, someone new in the centre, Miller on the right with O'Riordan covering and pushig them both. Which would at least give us more quality and balance.

"We dont know" who was at fault according to chaddy. Wonder if one of our fans ringing their ticket office and the subsequent tone of the reply will show who was at fault. Probably not.

Gudjohnsen and Dykes might play in similar areas but the main difference is the most important. Gudjohnsen seems to have a knack of scoring goals. Dykes certainly doesnt. I am not in a position to find and know enough about my own transfer suggestions. But I do know Lyndon Dykes enough to know that hes a bit of a donkey. I think Hardie as a suggestion has more merit to it. Mind you, its a pretty depressing thought that the 4th/5th/6th choice strikers at promoted teams are almost certainly unobtainable (certainly without wage contributions) to us, a side who finished 7th last season. We need 2 strikers. I cant say I have any confidence in us getting 2, in us getting anyone good or in us getting anyone in proactively.

Does Gudjohnsen just play a "focus point role?" His main job is to score goals. Dykes might have played a lot in the league but he has never really learnt how to score very often in it. And thanks for your further patronising comments regarding our well structured and harmonious transfer committee.

I prefer to say what I think we need rather than what I think may happen. Pickering is well down the list of players I would be keen to move on. Lyndon Dykes? Ideal? And also, you correct me a week ago by going on about this lovely committee we have that decides on signings when I criticised Gestede. Now its down just to him.

Good result today, and great character shown to grind out a good point. Tronstad again excellent, and Cantwell was also good. The 2 real bits of quality (Alebiosu also falls into this category) who could easily slot into a top 6 chasing side and they stand out in our team. Pratt I think again was really good. Still clearly need to sign a Hyam replacement, but Miller and McLaughlin both did well today. Baradji also showed a lot of promise when he came on, surely he needs to start on Monday. Going forward I thought we was really blunt as I expected. Ohashi is a good partner for a striker who offers more of a goal threat but isnt ever going to be prolific and Henriksson clearly isnt the answer. We need 2 strikers ASAP. The threadbare squad is a real concern and needs to be sorted.

Do you think Waggott individually went rogue and specifically wanted Dennis? And had total autonomy 6 months before he had totally been edged out of the club?

Read that post again.

Its one thing shifting someone who is absolute crap like Gueye. Someone might have a shocker from a recruitment perspective and sign an absolutely terrible striker. Clubs do, we did. Its another shifting someone like Carter who cannot stay fit for a week of training without breaking down. His history and presumably his medical would flag the fact that his ability is an irrelevance because he cannot sustain his body to play professional football. And I am not advocating keeping players and then not registering them. I think we have a number who we actively should be trying to get shut of ASAP. What I am saying is we should say to them early, you dont have a future here. I think we need more than 3 or 4 as I have previously mentioned. That being said, I am not convinced that we will get that many, and assuming we do, I certainly have no reason to think that they will either have the required quality or be signed really early in the window (we have heard what Ismael has said so many times) which we desperately need, as proven by how weak our squad is currently looking. Im guessing that you trust Gestede and also think we will get some quality in at the start of the window.

Who would in their right mind take Carter? Wouldnt trust Rudy to run a bath. We need to be clear with the unwanted crap. If you stay, you might not be registered. Best if you go. If they stay and sit on their contract, fine, but we have communicated that in advance.

You definitely did not suggest in the summer that your expectation was survival and build. And yes, I was against signing a player who wouldnt be fit enough to start for half a season. Doom and gloom comments? Yes, believe it or not, such a drastic drop in league position so soon does tend to do that. You try and consistently parrot what comes out of the club as if its all part of a good plan. Just a couple of poor signings, like Ferguson used to make.

And will everyone be welcome there? Which Saudi Arabia and Qatar fail and the USA also fails.

You keep saying that all teams have poor signings. The only way that would be a valid counter argument is if I said that I expect all of our signings to work out. I obviously dont. What the success or failure comes down to is how many signings are good, how many are poor, how good and poor they are, how well the squad is balanced, and how the team does compared to previous seasons and expectations. We have numerous signings who arent just poor, they are terrible. One in Alebiosu has been an excellent signing. Another in Gudjohnsen has been very good. 3 others have been ok, one hasnt started a game yet and one or two others are a bit below par. The squads massively imbalanced and we are is it 13 places lower in the table. You are making out like every team has an equal amount of successes and failures and its just one of those things. Thats not a case of shrugging and going, well even Ferguson and Mourinho didnt get it right all of the time. Its obviously not comparable to that. And on Baradji. This isnt me having it in for him. He has shown promise in a couple of cameos. But how you can possibly even suggest that hes towards the successful end is ridiculous when he literally hasnt started a game yet.