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People making these stupid rumours up just cause people to suggest that the issue is our "negative" fans rather than the club as in this instance they havent done anything wrong.

Looks good? That he wont be fit until at best late November, but more likely well beyond that? Joke of a signing. Ismael has sold Carter down the river in the press today too. Yes his injuries do make him a waste of time but to be questioning him in that manner, the "open and honest" gang will love him but its really poor man management to say that in public. How about looking back at ourselves who have left us with only him as a right footed centre back.

He named inferior players, one who isnt playing that much. Unless the reason was injury, he should be in the squad. Managers can make incorrect decisions. Obviously it didnt matter in this instance, we had 2 easy games.

Whatever his reason, it was wrong.

Guehi is a regular playing for the same team and Anderson isnt at a bigger club so im not sure it is that.

You are not actually reading what people are saying as is often the case. My point about Anderson is that we cant be sure that he is perfectly suited to a role he hasnt really played in senior football, and isnt playing for his club. A few games against poor to awful international sides isnt enough evidence to suggest that against better sides he would be able to be as effective in that particular role. The Gerrard and Lampard example is not a relevant counter argument to my point. I acknowledged that it feels like the team is more balanced with for example an inferior player in Gordon wide left who may not be as good as Foden or Palmer but is an actual left winger rather than a number 10 being squeezed in. My point was that I dont believe that playing most likely a Bellingham OR Palmer OR Foden in any way does imbalance us as opposed to Rogers. Any of the 4 are natural number 10s, the first 3 are just better than Rogers. I also think that Rogers will be dropped before the tournament. Bellingham missed out because he hadnt really been playing, although I am unsure if there is also a personal issue between the 2. Palmer was injured. I think either starts as soon as they are available and ready. The fact that I believe you put Bellingham in your 11 in that position, but I may be wrong, says that you are either not reading what Ive put considering that I am suggesting the exact same thing, or are just trying to create arguments for the sake of it.

I dont even think Rogers was very effective yesterday, and hes been poor for Villa. I dont think he can do anything that at least some of those better players cant do. And his only good games in general this season have been for England against really poor opposition, and he hasnt been stand out. Of those other players, the issue has been trying to shoehorn too many similar players in at once. In the past, although hes an inferior player, we didnt have the balance of a pacy Gordon running beyond on the left or someone sat beside Rice letting him run on. Bellingham in terms of style of player I dont think is chalk and cheese with Rogers for example, just much better. With balance around him, there is no reason that he cant play in this team. At the last Euros, he ended up often playing from the left.

My point is that he doesnt really play that same role for Forest so there are question marks about his suitability in playing that holding role and how he would fare against proper opposition. A few games against crap teams in which England werent tested doesnt answer those question marks. Neither does anything he did in under age groups, although I have probably as little idea as you as to whether he even played there. Hes a good player, I am merely questioning how good he actually is, we have a habit of overhyping players based on a couple of games against crap teams. And also more importantly, how suited he is to that particular role. That Gerrard and Lampard line is just a recycled one used out of context here. I am noy saying that we should stick all of Bellingham, Palmer and Foden all in and try to squeeze them in as we have in the past, I did say that we are correct to try and be more balanced. But there has to be room for one of them in what is their natural position. Any of the 3 are a couple of levels above the likes of Rogers and if we cant get any of these in the team then something is wrong. I refuse to accept that say Bellingham playing as a number 10 ie his natural position is not good for the team.

Our fans in general seem to grow unhealthy dislikes of departed managers here despite them all doing good jobs here before being undermined by Venkys. There seems to be a lot taking great happiness in Tomasson's struggles. There was the embarassing snake stuff at Derby away which I suspect will be repeated next month. And even Mowbray, the level of over the top hatred rather than focusing on the real problem.

I do agree to an extent on Bellingham, I have seen him both in the Champions League and for England and he is capable of scoring goals and bits of magic but it has been amidst spells of anonymity. That being said, there has to be a way of getting one of Bellingham, Palmer or Foden in that role. Any of the 3 are better than Rogers.

That isnt a constructive reply to suggestions that there are still question marks over how good he is and moreso, whether he is best suited to a role he has limited experience of playing. Playing against recent position doesnt disprove that.

Anderson is a good player but I am not convinced that he is beyond good Premier League standard. He also doesnt play as deep for Forest so it isnt necessarily a position hes most comfortable in. Against poor to awful opposition, thats not been tested at all so far in an England shirt and hes had free reign really. Against better teams, I would wonder how he would fare. I do think that Wharton is more well suited to that role as he plays it every week.

Anderson as the number 6? Wouldnt fancy him at centre back.

Yeah, its a total waste of time trying to judge against such dreadful opposition. One thing I do think is that Tuchel seems happy to try and build the most balanced team, rather than the one with the best players. England's best position is clearly number 10, with Bellingham, Foden and Palmer, and even beyond that, Eze and Rogers. All (or at least the first 4) are better than anyone we can muster up wide left. But Kane is slow and drops off, to get the best out of him we need a quick left winger who can go in behind so its either Gordon or Rashford. No sticking a Foden, a Palmer, even a Grealish there, the main thought is balance. He clearly wants 2 out and out wingers. Same in midfield. Rice has often been wrongly used as a holding midfielder, now hes being balanced off with Anderson. Its the right approach after decades of imbalanced teams but the question is, even if its balanced, how far can a team go with a number of players that are good but nothing special in it, complimenting the stand out players. Expectations in the past have been built on the idea of all of our stand out players on the pitch at the same time. I do think he needs to get in one of our top class number 10s, probably Bellingham, and get Foden, Palmer and Wharton amongst it fighting for the first 11. Just not all of them playing at the same time.

Went to Saudi for the "project."

The matter of public record thing has become the new stakeholders. It was also the reasoning behind believing every word about Suhail's spiel about budgets and spending. If its on public record then it must be 100% true and each word must be taken literally.

Gudjohnsen doesnt seem to be in the Iceland squad tonight and Kargbo wasnt in the Sierra Leone squad last night. So might be 2 down for the weekend.

The pitch was totally waterlogged. Regardless of what McKenna or Ismael wanted. The owners wouldnt pay for the overhaul a few years back due to cost. But yes. Its that nasty McKenna, nothing the club could have done.

The thing is, that £40k investment will appease some, similar to when we failed to do a total overhaul of the pitch but they came out and bigged up that they had stitched the goal areas and again people defended the owners. But the owners were supposed to and eventually blocked the aforementioned overhaul which was needed after 30+ plus years, a few years ago. It would have cost I think £2m and included the pipes underneath. And yet some with the inability to realise that its just a PR attempted spin piece will watch and read similar rubbish to today and swallow it. Its not the clubs fault!

It is. He even acknowledged the age of the pitch on the video and the drainage underneath. The owners refused to do the full pitch overhaul needed the other year. Only the gullible and naive would think it was totally out of the clubs control.

Theyve put up a video of the groundsman defending the club on the official youtube now. Mentioned the old pitch, all the other stuff is immaterial. Thats the issue, the owners wouldnt go through with the promised full pitch revamp a few years ago.

Until he left, you was pretty insistent that he was correct to carry on playing as we was at the time. He was wrong but it seemed to be out of stubborness rather than naivety. He had plans and he had the carpet totally pulled from underneath him, hence why he wanted to resign. His main lesson is to choose his next club based on the owners and board. Dont make the mistake he made here where Venkys totally messed up all of his plans.

He will have to learnt to not take jobs with dreadful owners.

Yeah I dont get why such an appointment would provoke a response of anything but total ambivalence.

Theyll have Wissa back by then. But Osula was meant to be going to the Bundesliga in the summer. No way is he coming here.