roversfan99

A "proper manager? Could have fooled me.

Embarassing as expected. We look nailed on to be in League 1 next season. Manager is crap, admittedly he has a piss poor squad to pick from, although apparently was key in endorsing and getting these wastes of space. But picked the wrong team, made initial subs too late and seemingly with the last 2 subs felt obliged to make all 5. Few players deserve a special mention. De Neve would struggle in the Conference, right up there with the worst I have seen in the shirt, similar to Gueye who summed himself up with that offside at the end. Miller is absolute crap and probably gets away with it amidst the other shit around him. His idiocy led to the spell of pressure that led to the third. The whole defence is diabolical, McLoughlin should not be starting regularly, not very good. Tavares beside good work in the lead to the goal again was what he always is. Laxadasical, sloppy and with a token pitiful shot like he always does.

Not bothering with a midfield today?

I dont think I am the one who is being naive to suggest that money is still important to people earning well above an average wage.

I think Waggott was a poor CEO. I think Mowbray was an ok manager who did a decent job, but certainly had a number of flaws. I think Anderson was a leech and out of the 4 certainly have the most disdain for, he cant be compared to managers/executives/board members (bar maybe Suhail). And I think Coyle was a dreadful manager. I dont think they shouldnt all be judged on what they have done at the club. I just am not naive enough to think that the architecht of our downsizing is anyone but the owners. I think your deflection of blame away stems around your warped logic about how "their financial clout" impacts us. They merely offset the losses every year by raising share capital or debt. The same as all Championship owners, none of then have a choice. Norwich, Swansea, Preston, QPR, the list goes on although i doubt their fans praise them for it. You seem to view it as if at the start of the year, they go heres £20m see what you can do with this.

Ive never said that they shouldnt be criticised. But you have historically deflected from the owners. It isnt in my head as lots of other people have pointed it out over the years. If Waggott was the "architecht" of the downsizing, and what has happened since his departure was because of his work. What happened for over 7 years before he was appointed? If your argument is that the owners dont care and want to pass the blame away to people closer to home. Then surely Suhail would be the architecht, having been here before, during and after Waggott and with seemingly more power.

Im not convinced he would have taken Boro up either way. And certainly, I dont think he would have then attracted a bigger club. I think theres a naivety though about the fact that football management is still a job. They wouldnt do it for free and wont be so flippant about money just because "they arent short of money."

A big contract paid up and having to do nothing for it. Not a bad consolation prize.

I knew you loved to deflect from the owners but I didnt realise your views are so ludicriously extreme. You will struggle to explain what was going on and why we was so shoddily run and why we was downsizing continiously for over 7 years prior to his appointment.

Do football managers do their jobs purely for enjoyment? Or is money not the main reward?

I am looking forward to seeing us recover then similar to how healthy we were in the Venkys years before he arrived. To say that he specifically is the architecht of the downsizing of this club is absolutely ludicrious even for you. He may well have played a small part in enabling it but come on.

Venkys are the downsizing architecht of our destruction and it began well before Waggott came in. Yet more baffling deflection.

Was a general comment about the state of football. Specific to World Cups, also consider expanding the tournament diluting the quality for a money grab and selling out to countries with shameful human rights records.

The best role for him would be at a different football club in a much lower league.

Football sadly has long ceased to become a game directed for the benefit of the fans. Prices, kick off times, further attempts at greed, we are just collateral damage.

Lots of I think and guesses as to what might have happened at Boro but ultimately he will be better off financially, he will be probably living back at home and they are factors you ridiculously said at the time he shouldnt consider. And backed up with saying that Theo Walcott said the same as if that was a clincher! Money is still important even if you earning a good wage to begin with, its better to have a lot more.

Not only his connections but a massive pay rise and at least being a Premier League manager short term You didnt respect them reasons, you said that he shouldnt consider those reasons.

We have needed him from the start of the season, especially when Hyam was sold. His body is incapable of being a Championship footballer.

He is one for the future. Sadly its a grim future.

Really big blow. And it seems that none of our defenders will be back fit and obviously we cant sign or recall anyone before January and there are 3 or 4 games before that.

I would be surprised if the first team came in to play a friendly today, the day after a first team match.

If Suhail is still around? Of course he will. He is bullet proof. He is a snake who has been attached to Venkys all this time. We could get a brilliant CEO and he would be set up to fail here. Would be like appointing Pep Guardiola as assistant manager to Steve Kean.

Makes no difference if it is someone underneath Suhail. Wont have any power and will be overruled.

It makes no difference. It will be someone with absolutely no power beneath Suhail. At least Nixon has got about 400 stories about it.

And how do you know hes good at it?