roversfan99

Am I not right in thinking that a decent chunk of academy costs are subsidised.

But there is absolutely no accountability now. And I havent witnessed the fans turning on the players. Ewood is as quiet and apathetic as it ever has been. And even if the fans do get annoyed it isnt at the players.

They are on easy street now. Theres absolutely no accountability and continued poor results are just put down to various excuses.

And ability. And effort.

The plan to cut costs stems from the owners. Thats the most logical conclusion. The stooges are happy to oblige.

I think its the wrong way round to suggest almost as if the stooges have convinced Venkys to cut back like we have. Venkys have no interest in the club. Ive no doubt that Suhail and Gestede are happy to oblige as is clear. Championship clubs lose money because wages are so high and more often than not outstrip all income before considering other cost. Wages would massively come down further if we went down. But again, I am not convinced thats the aim, just an inevitable symptom.

There is no chance we get Cleary. But assuming he is a target. As much as he looks a real talent, its another example of us trying to build a squad without a plan. They cant seem to decide on a formation and seem to not strongly consider signing square pegs for square holes.

I was thinking maybe it will take more points than average. With Sheffield Wednesday barely competitive and compared to recent years, not the same level of dominance at the very top, there are more points to be shared around.

He specifically said though that we wont spend on Championship wages, not transfer fees. On fees, our spending this season is far from unreasonable. But there is a clear and aggressive policy to massively cut the wage budget hence signing players from weaker foreign leagues.

I really dont get this anti English player agenda you seem so keen to push. Our media often overhypes English players.

PSR rules are obviously a load of shit. But they hide behind that but if you look at it, they have also snookered themselves somewhat. They wasted big money on players like Elanga and Ramsey. They also got involved in strange deals like signing a random Greek goalkeeper for a significant fee as part of the Anderson deal to Forest.

One point you dont seem keen to acknowledge. All Championship clubs make losses and their owners all offset those losses, without the fanfare. Its not just a Rovers thing. In fact, I have read that even in the Premier League, only West Ham made a profit last year, as their stadium is funded by the government. Football clubs make losses. Yet are all owned by people who offset them. The chances of any new owners being unwilling to do that, knowing that they would have to is low and would be temporary as the club would be taken away from them. There are clearly people out there with the funds and willingness to buy Championship football clubs knowing that they are loss making. Why are you so skeptical that it would happen here?

The way the squad has been assembled and they are "trying" to further add to it is bizarre. There seems to be no thought in terms of creating a balanced squad for a favoured, consistent formation

People on both sides trying to provoke arguments, take the moral high ground and increase their own social media profiles.

The sniping is becoming annoying on either side. And sadly I cant see it easing. There are people who seem to be taking pleasure in the crowd not being very low. Some even defending the owners which is pretty sick inducing. And there have been (mainly on social media) people purposely going out to provoke division on the other side, suggesting that attendees arent proper fans etc. These seem to be people that are more interesting in their own accounts being noticed, perhaps a bit of an ego thing. Often people who wouldnt have attended anyway. The way the coalition communicated in a non aggressive, non provoactive way was refreshing. These are the aims, this is why we are doing what we are doing, no calling out those who wont boycott.

It isnt when the selling club wants £5m. Its an utterly pointless bid.

Ismael mentioned it too. With some injured players returning a new excuse was needed.

Why do all the other Championship owners cover losses? Championship clubs spend more than they bring in, its just how it is. Also, if you think that Venkys sacked Allardyce because of the fans then you are the one that needs to get real. But yes, people are just annoyed that Venkys dont turn up "enough" (one way of putting it) waving pom poms. Have some standards.

He may well be tired and over burdened but he was never anything more than bang average. There was talk in the summer of him being rested and ready to score 15-20 goals which always seemed fanciful.

How can anyone possibly have evidence of people who want to buy us? The owners wont put us up for sale and even if they did, we wouldn't be privy to such details. Why are you putting us down by suggesting that we couldnt find owners that at the very least would also pay the bills? 23 other Championship owners all pay the bills. Clubs at this level and below are bought. What makes us such an undesirable proposition and unique case? Paying the bills isnt this big plus you seem so keen to credit them for. Its the only way they would be able to keep the club. At every other club whose owners also cover the losses as its par for the course owning a Championship club. I bet you dont have fans crediting them for it in the absence of absolutely anything aside from that.

It was an improvement in that we didnt get comfortably brushed aside. But it wasnt a good performance in general. It was drab.

Doesnt buy him any time. Job is safe either way.

It was improved on the embarassing 2 losses but thats a low bar. The standard of the performance today and the game as a whole was depressingly low.

Feel like the narrative post game is that we were much better today. I thought we were crap again, so were they. The quality of the game in general was pretty embarassing at times. A group of sub par players looking particularly disjointed and again failing to win. The change of formation doesnt make sense. Recruitment clearly wasnt designed for a back 3, but we have seemingly focused on getting in most likely 2 strikers, no wingers, only to revert back, especially when our good wing back is getting fit again. Just screams of making it up as they go along. Ohashi is not good enough, thats pretty simple. Jorgensen offered nothing and looks slow, and Miroshita is better central and looks rusty, had no impact. Cantwell was crap. O'Riordan doesnt look up to it and I was amazed to see he got man of the match. Thought Cashin was much better which obviously the benchmark was low. But he was man of the match for me. Tronstad was also decent. Alebiosu had an impact when he came on.

Dike will be on standard Championship wages so it wont be him.