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One of the most recent policies that did work was spending as much as Forest did. The gap is getting bigger.

Sancho is terrible. And Rashford is bad news.

With the financial inequalities in this country, its hard to make a strong case for any of the promoted sides to stay up. They all have to essentially sign a new teams worth of players to stand a chance, Sunderland in particular. I dont see which current Premier League team will face much jeopardy. If West Ham dont sack Potter then they are probably the most likely. Was great to see Sheff United not go up purely because of how much of a dickhead Wilder is.

But Walker and Stones when at their peak were key components of a side that were winning multiple league titles and various other honours.

I think we have often set up quite defensively but even individually, we are much worse now because we had the likes of Stones, Walker and even Shaw who are all a shadow of their former self.

He may have said the right things, I have never disagreed. So what? Hes not a pundit. The football team he is managing has become far worse and shown no signs of progress with him in charge, showing no signs of any promise and resulting in some abysmal results. And long may it continue.

Absolutely, but equally people would have said that about their team. You can win it without brilliant players in every position, but theres no harm in admitting that we are weak in that position.

If Rovers decided to sell the stadium, chaddy would simply demand a video explaining the decision to the stakeholders.

Centre backs ranging from good to average to totally out of the picture to well past their best. So no top level centre backs that a team with supposed aspirations of winning major tournaments would expect to have.

I know he said it. My point was that its irrelevant. I dont get why you become so fixated over what people say rather than results/actions. Thats good news though if he carries on being as bad as he has been. Hes made them far worse since he joined.

They are good Premier League centre backs, certainly not top level. Stones is done.

Based on his initial squads, there seems very little likelihood that the above will the midfield at the World Cup. Although even if it is, I dont know if it is sufficiently defensive to protect a below par defence. To think at one point, we had 6 or 7 centre backs all a world away from the current dearth in quality there.

Brereton and Rothwell were down to the owners not allowing bids for those players to be accepted and reinvested.

His squads in general are enough to make people mourn the departure of Southgate and that is saying something. It doesnt really matter though as its a non entity of a qualifier against Andorra and a totally pointless friendly. Any players playing in the stupid club world cup should have been left out to have a break and I suspect a few may pull out beforehand.

If that is true then surely it reflects well on Waggott and terribly on the owners? You are just continuing to deflect away from the real problem.

He may have said things that were right. But they have made absolutely no progression under him in terms of actual football, regressing badly further with no signs of positivity. Well, except for us as its funny.

Its not the fact that you was right or wrong to want Ismael out. It is the fact that you are so passionate about what you perceive to be a lack of patience and time given to head coaches sacked either 6 months or 12 months in, to the point of wishing one to be relegated, only to then ask for ours to be sacked after 8 games. The definition of hypocrisy. I think United appointed Amorim as a head coach, not as a fortune teller.

But again, why do you assume that specifically the CEO ie Waggott has total autocracy over that area? Similar to head coaches leaving, putting aside the fact that Lambert did the same before he came. Why are you so sure that they left because of him? Ticketing policies have been consistently shocking, but in the grand scheme of things, it is small fry compared to the owners providing peanuts as transfer budgets in the vast majority of seasons here, interfering to stop multi million sales and pocketing big sales without reinvesting. All clubs have wage bills that totally dwarf ticket money, the properly run ones promote reinvestment and that is how they cut the losses, by selling players continuously at a profit.

I definitely didn't say that about winning a trophy. I just think that for a team so expensively assembled, to have had such a bad league season (like I said, its hard to fathom quite how bad it is, 17th is ridiculous) and having consistently been so poor, I don't get how the powers that be would see Ange as the man to take them forward. I would love to know aside from all the generic spiel, what you have seen from United under Amorim in terms of green shoots to make you think that he is the man to potentially push them on? Have you seen anything at all that his tactics will eventually work? I hope they fail badly and from what I have seen, he is the man to do that so hopefully they keep him. And yes, I did criticise Ismael and would have welcomed a change. You clearly don't understand my point about hypocrisy if that's a counter argument. It is you that is disgusted when a head coach is sacked 6 months, a year or even 2 years in, so it is then a bit rich when at your own club you welcomed a change after 8 games.

Im not saying they micromanage everything, as you say they clearly dont care. But they clearly have only one objective, to cut costs. Why though do you focus and place the blame solely on Waggott and not Suhail, if that is your line of thinking?

What power struggle? Between him and Suhail who is still here and doesnt communicate with the (I will use your favourite word) stakeholders at all. Sufi is another incompetent arse kisser getting jobs he is out of his depth in as a result. Run the club properly and you wont need to "communicate with your stakeholders" as no one will care.

You think hes managed 7 years under Venkys reign just doing whatever he wants? I look forward to how well we will now be run now this one bad apple has been removed. I dont get why youve always been keen to pin everything on him and deflect away from the real source. You even put driving away managers specifically on him before. That was happening before he even turned up. Its great news that hes gone in isolation but it will make little to no difference with the main problem still here.

Because hes done exactly what they have wanted. Your post reads almost as if Suhail has just become a scapegoat of Waggott's.

I agree that Champions League teams shouldnt drop into the Europa League. But the quality of the Europa League is undoubtedly weaker as a result. You are fixated with the idea of just backing any manager ever, aside from Ismael. A manager only warrants backing if he shows enough to justify that time and those resources. There have been absolutely no signs whatsoever that anything is building under Amorim. His record is worse that Steve Kean, they are 16th in the league. He is stubbornly sticking to a style and formation that doesnt suit the majority of his squad, why that is a positive trait im none the wiser. Im glad they are keeping him because its funny, but he certainly hasnt done enough to warrant millions to spend and another season. Its not like either Spurs or United have slightly underachieved. Its hard to even fathom quite how dreadful they have both been, 16th and 17th in the table, both on less than 40 points with a game to go. On what planet that warrants more time and a big transfer kitty, I do not know. Lets hope they both keep their managers and their woeful form continues into next season because it is certainly very funny.

The poor communication isnt the main worry. Its the continued dreadful running of the club. Will that noticeably change now he has gone? Do you think the club can run normally now with Venkys still here and Suhail/Gestede/Sufi still here? He actually does at least communicate, as bad as he is. Thats how you got that list of staff members you wanted. Suhail the snake hides in the background. Its a continious power struggle at this club, hired goons trying to have their say under the stewardship of negligent cretinous owners. Be surprised if Gestede doesnt get another unwarranted promotion.