They are negative. We had a back 6 for much of a home game v bottom of the league. Yes wingers need to track back but we are often penned in like you wouldnt believe with no plan regarding getting the ball and keeping the ball in attacking areas.

@chaddyrovers you have always been consistent in praising Frank Lampard and his ability as a manager. Would you employ him if you was in power at either Leeds or Southampton?

I dont expect Big Sam to be appointed but he would be the ideal short term solution.

Because we didnt manage to sign a striker. Therefore I am saying that it is worth trying him up top rather than being a second left back in Tomasson's negative tactics, especially as the standard of the alternatives isnt high.

Big Sam would be the obvious appointment.

You must at least find it a little wasteful that our assets value has declined by over £8m as his form falls off a cliff. Surely Brereton is our best bet for a striker who offers a threat in behind? In the absence of a functioning recruitment team, its worth a go.

People must be at a real loose end to repeatedly message Alan Nixon on twitter, especially asking him for betting tips and speaking to him like he is their mate!

He has barely played there, surely it's worth a go. In Tomasson's really negative tactics, the wingers end up playing in a back 6. We couldn't sign a striker and none of the alternatives offer much goal threat, Brereton does usually and would not need to run back as much in areas that he isn't dangerous in. The current set up going forward isn't working, so there is no onus on keeping it as it is. I expected a comfortable home win yes because we have been appalling since Tomasson had a month with the players during the World Cup. Watford were the dominant team and we didn't create much, it was backs to the wall (not sure how you can say well deserved when you didn't see the game) and it was frustrating to not keep a winning position but it showed some good spirit and is a good point overall.

But my point is that he is wasted being played so deep in the first place. It is a more defensive role than playing as left of essentially a front 2 (with Buckley floating) when he scored loads of goals under Mowbray or even as left of a front 3 in a 433 where again he offerer a goal threat. If Dolan swapped with him, his work rate could be used to get up and down whereas out of the 2 Brereton is the one likely to score if near the opposition goal. To be honest, we play too defensively and don't seem to know what we do when we have the ball. Watford's goal was coming because there is only so long you can just defend without any idea of how to attack.

He is out of form but isn't helped by his manager playing him so far away from goal. His tactics are leaving him milew away from goal.

My point still stands.

He can score goals so yes.

There may be an element of the imminent move in his mind but its an oversimplification to put everything on that. Tomasson's current tactics and usage of him does not lend itself to getting Brereton in areas to score goals. @chaddyrovers do you stand by the decision to keep him?

It is at least worth trying to get him further forward in positions where he can get into goalscoring positions rather than just assuming that it is beyond Tomasson's control.

Very few decent quality chances in those games. It doesnt help playing Brereton as a second left back so deep. I dont doubt the failings above the manager but I refuse to accept that the attackers we do have couldnt offer more of a goal threat or at least create better chances. They have before and did under Mowbray.

Gerrard is a crap manager. That being said, I refuse to believe that there is no willing manager in world football that couldnt improve on the terrible results that would have led to relegation under Marsch.

A decent point but our ability to hold on to leads has long gone and another winless game post World Cup. Going forward we again didnt create much and the usage of Brereton amidst a tactic of not far off a back 6 is infuriating, surely if you are going to play so defensively you at least have him up top and Dolan further back? He obviously should have been sold and he may be protecting against injury but the usage of him so deep by the manager is really hindering him. Our only threat comes from Dack who is the one who sniffs out chances. Thomas didnt do much again but we did look slightly better without Vale clogging things up. Defensively under Tomasson aside from semi regular horror shows we look well drilled but have to weather too much. Carter was man of the match and Wharton has improved alongside him, big question mark once Hyam returns as to what we do. Travis much better and back to his self alongside the inept Morton, full backs fine and Peara dealt with most things although made a terrible mistake that should have cost us.

Doesnt mean they werent right to sack a manager who couldnt win a game.

He was repeatedly failing to win games. Those players can be used by a new, better manager.

Hopefully Brereton will be down the middle and Dolan wide left. Glad Vale has been dropped from the squad. Watford look strong with Pedro back so can only see a home win.

Leeds couldnt win a game, they were heading in one direction.

We have created very few chances in those games. We have got worse after the manager has had more time with the players which is a big worry.

Wickham would be a really desperate signing, he isn't particularly good on the rare occasions that he is fit enough to play. Is he better than Vale? Yes, every striker in the league is but Vale shouldn't be playing even amongst our limited options. Brereton, Dolan and Gallagher should be the 3 choices.

Its a strange season with the World Cup break but a whole month with the players should have given Tomasson a unique chance to really work to push on his supposed style and build on a good start in regards to results albeit with very indifferent performances. We have been however noticeably worse since, creating no chances and results have also nosedived. Out of interest @chaddyrovers do you agree that performances have improved/been good since the World Cup?

Yet you would turn your nose up at such managers coming here because of their style of football. When Tomasson plays football that is even more dull, you are the first to defend him. Hypocrisy. Had he said it he would have been jumped on with criticism and understandably so. Since the international break, we embarrassed ourselves v Preston, we got a good win at Norwich but it was a grind with a couple of lucky goals, we were terrible at Sunderland and barely had a shot, we deserved to lose v Boro, the Cardiff win was a borefest, the less said about Rotherham the better and then we were underwhelming at Bristol City and pitiful the other night v Wigan. The standard of performance has been as poor as it has all season and has gone further downhill even since prior to the World Cup.