We definitely shouldnt be putting other players out of position (Hedges is a right winger) to be trying to accomodate Dolan. He should be dropped, simple as that.

Tronstad surely has to be in the squad, and in the team if Travis is unavailable. We have looked very suspect to counter attacks, never moreso than with Rankin Costello and Wharton together in midfield, and one of our summer signings was a more defensive minded midfielder in his peak years having apparently been a top target. Reflects poorly on the judgement of those who picked him if he cant even make a 20 man squad.

People are behind him.

If Warnock goes, it would presumably be his own decision. He implied that he stayed because with the new owners, he felt it would be dangerous for them to also need to be looking for a new manager so soon. But he seems to prefer only working for a couple of months a year and he is not happy with not being backed in the window. If he goes, they will struggle.

Szmodics scored in his first game so he definitely wasnt written off after 45 minutes. He was poor in the first half of last season in the main, he came for a big (relative to the run down modern day Rovers) fee, it sidelined Dack and his performances were underwhelming, he was even dropped to play a couple of games with the kids. Questions were understandably asked. Then he stepped up, really started contributing and he is universally popular now, full of praise. Dont see any problem. (Aside from that weird comment from a solitary poster who wanted his legs broke, which was rightly jumped on by everyone)

Not sure that we would have a chance of getting close to 6m for him, maybe if he was 5 or 6 years younger, but has really become a key component to this team and one of the first names on the team sheet. He could have been taken off 10 minutes before he was today because he could barely move such was his work rate. Effort alone is not much use but he certainly does give us far more than that.

Im sure the weird Mowbray irrational hatred will come to a head over the next few days. A much tougher game than today on paper. Mowbray contrary to popular belief is a proven decent manager at this level and Sunderland have some real talent. 2 young sides for whom experience has been ushered away/prevented fron being brought in for decent reasons by people above the manager seemingly somewhat against their wishes. Crazy how much our team has changed in just over a year with so many key players having moved on. Wahlstedt Brittain Carter Hyam Pickering Travis Wharton Hedges Szmodics Rankin Costello Gallagher With Telelovic and Tronstad in for Gallagher and Travis if injured. Rankin Costello feels too good to not play but not convinced that him and Wharton provides the right balance and with Dolan being not up to it and Moran struggling today, there is a potential spot on the left side, Brittain did well.

Indeed. Everyone is already behind him as was evident today, and behind the team as a whole. I dont think that people do need to go and watch under 23 football to understand anything in regards to any supposed entitlement in the crowd. Ultimately, even though prices have actually increased in order to watch a team more reliant on graduates than ever before, there seems to be zero entitlement in how the team is backed. Its first team football, people dont pay big prices and already give up lots of free time to watch development football, its all about the points. In an ideal world people will go and watch the kids teams too but they shouldnt be made to feel like they need to go simply to gain understanding, people are already intelligent enough to understand the difference. But as you say, the fans are always supportive and were great again today.

He can speak the language, very well. That quoted comment is based solely on his performance today. Obviously the smallest of samples. If it said, he doesnt look up to standard so he never will be, different argument. But we only have today to base it off, just as if he scored 2, people would say wow he looks incredible which would be equally flawed but wouldnt be jumped on so quickly. We get our first look at him, most naturally gain a first impression. As long as that is an opinion that would change if and when he does well, then no problem. I just think a more constructive way to have debate would be to counter by saying actually he did this or that well, and actually talk about the game, rather than trying to shut people down because they are judging so soon. Its obvious that its based on one game. Hes come from such a low standard and is 23 so young but not really young, and he has come straight into the squad so hes not a kid for later on. Today might be a sign of whats to come, or just part of a settling in period.

I agreed that the one poster was talking shite, as long as it is clarified that it is just one poster and not indicative of a pattern then fine.

No, his previous injury proneness is obviously unfortunately a red flag. And fitness or specific injury, he will have spent the majority of the first quarter of the season unavailable which isnt great. So "at least one poster" was one poster clearly talking rubbish, but that in turn seems to categorize anyone suggesting that he struggled as writing him off.

In all what time? He had a history of injury at Plymouth which saw him play less than half of the minutes last season and he had a bad injury the season prior, their fans warned us he is subject to injury issues and that is what we have found here with 2 issues already. He is a good player but throughout there were huge gaps between our midfield and defence.

Can you show me where he has been "written off" by quoting anyone who has been so conclusive. Not saying it didnt happen but most are just commenting on his performance today. You clearly didnt watch as he played for alot longer than 10 minutes. My opinion was that it was a bit of a struggle for him, he looks very raw and like a player who has been playing in a very low standard division. He made one superb pass but in the main, he struggled to get hold of the ball, looked slow off the mark and missed a sitter. I say all that because it is very reasonable to comment on his performance. Not a fan of people shutting discussion down because their personal stance is not to judge a player for a specific period of time decided upon by themselves. By all means say actually I though he did x well or provided x to the team. Had he come on and bagged 2 those same people wouldnt reserve judgement so its purely "negativity bashing."

Because he has a history of injury issues that Plymouth fans warned us about (along with praising him in terms of quality) and he will have spent basically the first quarter of the season in the treatment room. We can only hope, but his start here doesnt bode well. The alcohol etc stuff is just hearsay.

Ennis has one problem that Szmodics doesnt, he is made of glass.

People are going to discuss players as they go, its not this rash and misery induced negativity that it is made out to be. The key is if and when that player improves, which doesnt always happen, that people acknowledge the improvement. Now Szmodics is showered with praise and seen as a key player.

VAR would have ruled out their goal.

Probably a game that sums us up. Going forward, we create chances far better than we have in the past, although we dont take anywhere near enough. Defensively we look very ragged this season and the balance of the midfield especially without Travis wasnt right. Massive gaps that a better team than Boro (we have had a favourable first 6 games) would have done far better with, their striker in particular was really poor when presented with big spaces especially at the end. The Tronstad situation is so strange, surely he would be ideal to help to close some space deep in our midfield. Pears was shaky as we expect, the back 4 were left exposed but in the main did well. Wharton has been a mixed bag this season, fantastic on the ball but exposed at times, Travis did well when on. Hedges was a threat, Szmodics deserved man of the match, Gallagher was ok without offering much goal threat and Dolan again nowhere near good enough. Moran was really poor too and Telalovic looks very raw, think he was given offside when he missed that sitter but aside from one excellent pass he struggled to lead the line. We are dying for some experience to provide some stability and some know how. The last 30 minutes is not a sustainable way against better teams to see results out.

Rubbish team and rubbish window. What Tomasson sees in Pears I do not know. Dolan back in for Moran makes no sense. Tronstad cant even make the bench, another inspired signing.

Leicester have got some really talented good young players but they have a brilliant core of proper experience in Ndidi, Vardy, Pereira, Coady and Winks. You need experience in key positions to be competitive over 46 games and they definitely have it.

What about Tyler Morton?

Not injury prone. Just unlucky with injuries. Whats the difference?

Venkys leaving would do just that.

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/23793224.tomasson-doubles-rovers-deadline-day-stance/ Pears looks like starting tomorrow. Has a real blind spot towards him.

No idea if its the under 21s or an in house game.