roversfan99

You weren't right.

The court case "isn't a problem anymore." Club fed drivel when in reality nothing has changed and they have said similar throughout this case.

Unless someone bids money for Hyam, when his stock is low, so unlikely, can we really afford to let him go. I am not his biggest fan but he is one of only 2 senior centre backs that we have fit, so we need reinforcements there anyway. I don't think we can afford to just "offload" him if it is even possible,

I can't say that I know if it has been business as usual, although he has done interviews with various people about what happened in January and what he wanted to do going forward, had he been sidelined back in February, he would have not been allowed/chosen to do such interviews in late March. I am just pretty confident that if you had actually heard something proper on Broughton's exit, that you would have not resorted to a cryptic post that you refused to take questions on. At a club like ours, it just caused more problems than benefits unfortunately, as we have seen.

I have not got a clue how you have come to that conclusion. I literally know no one who has anything positive to say about Waggott, whether in person, on here, social media or anywhere. Songs calling for Waggott to go are common place at Ewood, whereas there has never been anything about Broughton. I think this is solely in your head. Ultimately it's all down to Venkys. You are obviously correct about the contrarian view about him throwing a tantrum etc, he was right to leave and right to be so annoyed. But comparing Mowbray and Tomasson's time here is not like for like, the former inherited a team full of crap destined for League 1, the latter inherited a side that had just finished 8th and with more funds than we had for a few years to replace the 3 out of contract players. Both did good jobs but ultimately both were undermined by Venkys.

I think Waggott has proved that he is only bothered in appeasing the owners.

This idea that hiring GB was some sort of ploy to protect him seems a little far fetched, protect him from what? How does it protect him? And it certainly hasnt worked. I suspect either Broughton is being sacked due to a poor transfer record or much more likely amidst all these cut backs and having grown sick of Venkys hes had enough.

This Broughton news is only going to increase an influx of people supposedly hearing exactly what has gone on and professing their ITK knowledge.

Im sure that has happened, the owners were desperate to have a push at promotion (especially amidst this self inflictef court case) and spend some money but have bowed to the superior judgement of the CEO who wouldnt benefit from the pay rise he would almost certainly get if we somehow managed to get promoted at some point.

We would obviously do better with a proper CEO, 100%. Waggott is undoubtedly well out of his depth. But like any CEO, Director of football, manager or whatever, any change is somewhat insignificant in comparison to the owners. The people who are let go tend to be ones who challenge the owners and their running down of the club in any way. If we had a better CEO, we would almost certainly increase income for example. But that increase would pale into insignificance when the owners regularly sell owners and the money just vanishes. See Wharton, Armstrong, Rhodes, Cairney and Gestede as examples. A more proactive and competent CEO might bring in 500k more, a million more, even 2 million more. But it pales into insignificance. His job is safe until he personally decides otherwise because he doesnt kick up a fuss, he knows this job is the best he will get and he will pander to what the owners want.

Amidst all the cryptic nonsense, you said it in that way (it wasnt true) to cover all bases, knowing that if you said it then you could be called up on it if/when it turned out not to be true.

Yeah, thats the more likely scenario. They probably wouldnt have refused to spend 2m on a signing with the proceeds had it not been an owner driven financial decision.

Why would he want to do that? Do you think it was idea to have no money to spend and having to sell players without reinvesting? Or more likely, its the owners as has been widely reported and was heightened due to the issues they caused buying Nevilles house leading to a court case.

I think I call him incompetent, a symptom of our problems and repeatedly call for his head, if that is standing up for him then what would I say if I didn't stand up for him? You are suggesting that Venkys paying Waggott to "micromanage" us as if they deserve credit for it. Like theyve done their bit. Not that anyone is given any power to fully micromanage when big decisions need approval and are often declined and/or take ages to get a response. Hes clearly carrying out what they want him to do without complaining. Hes ambitionless and happy to stay in a role he wouldnt match elsewhere, so he happily goes along with their desires to slash budgets.

Clearly very desperate as they are the only ones powerful enough to force the sale.

You implied months ago that he was on gardening leave (when he clearly wasn't) and refused to answer multiple times to clarify your assertion that he was on gardening leave back then. Not sure you can go down the ITK angle.

It would. And I am not underplaying how incompetent he is. We would still have the same owners, slashing the budget, causing huge delays in approving things/communicating for something to then that isnt a priority yet intervening at damaging times, and just going through incompetent staff even when we happily get rid of one. Weve had the likes of Shaw and Agnew too in his role. Waggott's worst "quality" is that he will align his actions around the owners wants, he is in a position that he couldnt better, hes comfortable and he wont challenge for better, as long as hes getting paid. He like Suhail is just a terrible symptom.

The owners to go isnt something that is an afterthought in brackets. Until they do, moving any of the incompetent staff even if it is Waggott is fairly immaterial.

Gestede as a token director of football would be a pathetic attempt at trying to appease the fans, and it wont work.

I am not bothered that Broughton is leaving in isolation, he hasnt impressed even allowing for the restrictions in his time here. I would think we would be better off without a director of football as it just seems to cause an extra layer of confusion and conflict at this dysfuctional club. The rumours about there being disagreements wouldnt surprise me though, I expect another summer of frugality. Waggott is much more content like silent Suhail to be complicit in following the owners want to strip the club down, but he isnt the main problem yet I think that will be lost. He needs to go, but the problem is always Venkys and if further budget cuts are causing issues then its all on them.

Theres a big question over whether he is well enough to do any job. But if he is, he is the manager of Birmingham and if he wanted to go higher, he could easily get a Championship job based on the work he has done in recent years. Why would he want to come here back to owners that didnt inform him that they were letting him go, amidst the current shit show, into a job he has never performed? I know you have an unhealthy dislike of him but come on. Why would the club not want to announce that due to our position in the league, especially if it happened when we were comfortably away from the drop zone, and as if it would have been responded to negatively? No way is Wahlstedt on Kaminski level wages. The latter signed a new deal during his time here before the restrictions, the former signed when we were cutting back and intended to be number 2 behind Pears who had just been given the number 1 shirt and a new deal himself.

Ive no idea how youve come to this conclusion from my post.

Sounds good...at a functional club.

I get that he is a leader and I do think thats one big plus. I noticed for example when Pears made that mistake v Sheffield Wednesday, at full time he looked like he ws about to go and hide in the dressing room. McFadzean gave him a hug and then ushered him towards the Blackburn End. Our supposed captain Hyam wasnt the one doing it. But he is so slow and old that playing him means that you cant even consider playing a back 4 and you have to play really defensive tactics to accomodate him. I get that there are occasions when we will be holding onto a lead where that may be somewhat useful, but I want us to move away from those tactics in general. Id like to think that we will play those tactics very rarely and then it becomes a luxury signing even without any fee just to have a player on a senior wage when we have no money just to play occasionally.

Probably, has seemed out of his depth really since he joined, but then again, he isnt the main problem, so it would probably make little difference either way. I always said that a director of football can be a real asset at a functional club. But it comes with risks if that isnt the case. At this dysfunctional mess of a club, I think it probably just adds an extra layer that causes further delays and disagreements, weve seen that here so we would probably be better off without one.