I remember seeing him a few times for Forest and he seemed to make a bad mistake in every game. Seems to be a modern day keeper whereby actual goalkeeping competence is not a priority in seeking someone who is ok with their feet.

Why is it quality OR speed in your eyes? Of course we need quality and that goes without saying really, but it is a genuine point to want at least a large proportion of the summer business to be done well in advance of the first games. It is not one or the other. It is important to start well and key to that is getting players integrated in pre season together. WHEN the players are signed isn't the irrelevance you make out, for example it would be no good getting all of the players on the last day of the window, 7 games in!

If its shared in confidence then you surely wouldnt try and verify it by saying that others know without saying who they are! I choose to go off your track record which is shocking to be fair. Agreed on the 12 years of despair and I am not confident about our window either.

He was here before we signed anyone last summer. He was the one who apparently initially spotted Khadra, ultimately it is hard to judge on such a small budget last season in only one season.

Not that 2/3 random other posters could verify it, but who? Even if it was true, as I said that alone doesn't necessarily mean the sort of despair you are trying to provoke is justified. McGoldrick is also going to Derby ahead of Sheff Utd, again with a likely carrot of regular football.

That Muric is an absolute disaster. I hope you sign him!

I don't get why it is often spun back to mindsets and people being positive or negative. Surely expecting loads and being underwhelmed is even more frustrating?

Can see it now. Jon Dahl Tomasson has resigned after reading a few frustrated posts on an internet messageboard. People have been stung and damaged so much under these knobhead owners that they understandably perhaps act a little over the top, its a messageboard though. Why is it only quality OR speed in your mind, the 2 aren't mutually exclusive. Quality is important but it is much better to get at least some in with time to integrate in pre-season. The window closes 7 games in so we cannot wait until then for example either, we need to get at least some in ASAP. Hourihane has stemmed from Mercer so is undoubtedly rubbish and even if he has chosen Derby, it may well be for a better chance of first team football for similar money. But he would have been a decent enough addition, would have given us some experience and some quality passing, and did a role as a squad member at a top 6 side last season, so not sure what the "please" is about. Is that true? Many?

I am not too sure that it is to hide it but I do think it looks better than how it looked in the second half of last season, stuck over the top. I remember in the past that I think companies insisted that we put their sponsor in a box to make it stand out so I would be surprised if there was a deliberate attempt to somewhat conceal it, it goes against their inevitable regular promotion of Totally Wicked as is normal with a major sponsor.

I never personally buy the shirts but I am not particularly keen on any of the leaked kits, assuming the away and 3rd are as shown. The 3rd in particular is fairly abhorrent. The sponsor on the kit looks quite high but the whole kit is not very nice to look at to be honest. I possibly don't have as strong views as much as I understand others views on both vaping and indeed gambling companies but one aspect I do think is important regardless of personal views is to be wary to annoy supporters/customers by opting for controversial choices.

I don't get how anyone would spend so much on a product that requires such drastic action to make it anything other than "vile" to the user!

Totally agree on being judged on who does sign rather than who doesn't. No credit is earnt for who we sign and there is also no point in people doing what they sometimes do and add potential fees of players we are rumoured to have bid for, it has happened in the past to justify that we had more money and chose not to spend it. Take this Bosnian defender, even if we assume a genuine interest, we don't know if we actually bid and if we did bid, if it was £3m. All about how much we actually spend. On a replacement for Park, things don't seemingly work like that under Venkys. There was no chance of a contract extension for Mowbray in the winter yet seemingly no work was done in thinking of a replacement. Waggott will also presumably stay either until he chooses to go (unlikely) or until the end of his contract which according to @1864roverite is in 2025 which is worrying! The owners still somehow as the common denominator over 12 years seem to deflect the flak elsewhere by some based on this belief that they are naive and misled. Even if we take your crazy assumption at face value and say that Venkys were totally oblivious, that would reflect just as bad on them as if they were leading it!

Its always the same rhetoric when they get a new manager now too, give him time and trust the process etc with a genuine unwavering expectation that this time will be the time that it will all work out. Often the focus is on specific individuals deemed to be poisonous but the problem is much deeper. Pogba has left, Ronaldo may leave and the fans will anticipate a fresh start, a hungry young team. In reality, it would leave a keeper who is getting worse, an 80m centre back who isnt very good and will never not have the focus on him due to that price tag, 2 terrible central midfielders, a stroppy number 10 and 2 lazy England attackers who can never be arsed, amidst others. I just hope that it all continues to falter!

Very strange signing, hes crap.

Ive been as vocal as anyone in how we need a good number of players and how the earlier we can bed them in the better but your earlier sudden post (unsure if it was the failure to sign this Bosnian that provoked it) about being fucked and needing a long walk and a few drinks just caused intentional hysteria with many taking that one post as symbolic of an unfair perception of widespread blind panic. Ultimately, any team that changes manager in the off season is playing catch up in the transfer market. At a club as dysfunctional as ours, the process becomes more lengthy and we essentially cut half of the summer out searching for a manager. You could certainly argue that we are fucked or at least massively handicapped but that is down solely to Venkys and will continue until they depart. Mowbray thankfully has gone but leaves a very competitive first 11 or so despite key players becoming unaffordable with richer competitors and also another imminent large windfall on an asset which may or more likely may not be available for reinvestment. There is a platform there more than a mess but it needs at least a decent chunk of the Brereton money reinvested to push on.

He wouldnt even be considered if he wasnt a local lad. Did they specifically say that there would be no signings by now? And who has said that they "expected" signings by now? Would be ideal, can somewhat understand the concern to an extent as its best to get players in early and we have a track record of taking time usually due to lack of finance and delays stemming from India. In fact I am sure you said the other week that you could see a signing happening soon.

I dont think its ideal by any means but I expected it and im certainly not worrying or "panicking." I wouldnt expect anyone in this week either, just a guess mind.

Has anyone said other than we want the best players within our budget? That still doesnt remove the fact that we have lost a large quantity of players and also that ideally we would want at least a large proportion of them well in advance of the season. Strawman argument. Quality, quantity and speed arent all mutually exclusive. Healthy is subjective, thats the thing. Everyone will have different definitions of what it means. I am surprised that he didnt say that "our whole squad is shit and we have no money." All about actions.

Where is this from? Talented but not the biggest loss nor someone I expected to come back.

Are there any clubs to which you don't have a couple of mates who support and are right behind the latest managerial decision?!

A lot of the initial conversation will just be what people want to hear, can cause exciting but why you should never get carried away. On looking internally, the newly appointed director of football and manager aren't going to come out and say that the squad is massively lacking in quality and needs a clean sweep for example! That's just a standard line to keep people happy. Also the word "healthy" is so subjective. Last summer we sold a player for £15m and signed one for a couple of hundred grand. Spending one or two million for example is very healthy compared to that.

I don't doubt that FFP in general limits what clubs can spend. What I don't get is the assumption that if it ceased to exist, that anyone can say with any certainty that Venkys would invest more as a result. Even when people at the club (manager, CEO, whatever) have mentioned the recent withholding of funding, the excuse has always been the pandemic/a tough economy in India. Never the ready made excuse of FFP. Seems like a very reasonable signing at that level, unless MK Dons still play possession obsessed tactics. Even at his age he will be better than many of the bog standard central midfielders in that league. His performance v QPR at home was very impressive. Glad he has left mind but find it strange that you have such extreme and opposite views on him and Davenport when ultimately neither warranted a regular place here but the former definitely did a lot more when he did play.

How do you fit Eriksen and Fernandes in the same team, and who scores the goals if and when Ronaldo goes? Not to mention players like McTominay, Fred, Dalot, Maguire etc and lazy, stroppy players with little end product like Sancho and Rashford. Going to take a while to sort that mess I suppose. Hopefully they don't manage it at all!

I know but he was initially linked when Bielsa was in charge. Seems that half of Europe "wants" him so maybe his agent is trying to get him out ASAP.

I haven't seen any links personally and even then, if he ever has been linked in the past, it was possibly the lazy Bielsa/Chile link. Would be a surprise to me.