Forest's usual wing backs are Spence on loan from Boro and Lowe (ineligible tonight) on loan from Sheff Utd, 2 direct rivals. How is that allowed?

I am not sure either is directly comparable in that those 2 players have never proven to be competent Championship performers even when they are fit, so it is hard to know how much their performances were down to fitness and how much were down to quality. But I certainly wasnt pinning my hopes on his return with any great expectations, I totally get that it will be cameos only for a while, and that he will be so rusty at first. That being said, I am excited to see him back in the fold, I think it will be a huge boost for morale, he will get a great reception and even in a cameo whilst not fully fit hes the player youd want a chance to fall to. I dont read anything into what he does playing with and against kids in tick box exercises, its all about getting through them unscathed.

Lots of buzz words to justify the idea that judging managers on results is idiotic.

Hopefully he will be back for the upcoming home games.

Venkys shouldnt be overruling the manager on transfer matters.

https://www.rovers.co.uk/news/2022/march/03/bring-a-friend-to-ewood-/ Another ticket offer with strings attached. They don't learn.

He can't be questioned on Rothwell leaving on a free when it was Venkys that stopped us from getting a fee from him. I agree that the mentioned players are different situations, I was just saying that they are all academy graduates and you said that "not one of the academy lads have signed new deals." The 3 players are ones that presumably expect to be paid a wage befitting 3 key players in a team fighting for promotion, something Venkys seem unwilling to allow.

Will it rankle in Pune? Even if there is an element of public politics, im sure the main driver is money and the way we could have a much better chance of signing them is with more financial flexibility to be able to protect the assets. They don't seem to care about losing assets for free, Mowbray suggested that he was open minded to selling Rothwell to avoid him going for free and bringing in a couple of players with that money, yet Venkys stubbornly prevented that scenario. Also, Buckley, Wharton, Carter and Rankin Costello all signed new deals in the last year as academy lads.

The one thing I have learnt from this page is that, based on the fact that his agent has refused to engage, his agent has met the club 5 times in the last few weeks, he has no interest in signing and wants a new challenge, he would sign if we went up, he has been offered a very low offer, he has been offered a decent rise, ultimately none of us know what he has been offered and there is nobody ITK in this situation!

Three club rule. Even if there is any truth, I presume it was very much as one of the 2 players Mowbray had in mind with the potential Rothwell proceeds before Venkys interfered and made him stay.

Hes absolutely shit. Technically abysmal and constantly switches off. Pickering has been such a great signing and is so much better. Edun was poor when he covered but still better than Bell.

Random point and obviously too late for the fans forum but what happened to the old PR announcer? The new one is really irritating. Also, the timer isn't on throughout now as it used to be which is annoying.

Does he? The only time I can remember a decent delivery from him was at home v Reading last season for our first goal and even then it was quite a low cross that Armstrong did excellently to score from. Jurys out on Zeefuik too I agree, although early days. We need him to step up after the Nyambe injury blow.

Based on?

If we had a play off semi final against a team with Amarii Bell in it and were fearful, then something has gone wrong.

Any news on the latest minutes @only2garners

How do you know that they didnt enjoy it?

Or unless Venkys are willing to increase the budget to keep him. Either or.

Interesting to see the stat that he has started in 26 of 27 games that he has been fit for. Hardly the shoddy treatment from Mowbray that many like to point out.

Zeefuik has to prove that he is capable first to warrant a deal going into next season. His chance is now with Nyambe out. I am not happy with so many key players soon to be out of contract but I am not convinced that Mowbray or Waggott have much say in the matter.

I don't get this backwards logic of directly comparing Nyambe's potential wage to that of our main earners. Circumstance dictates wages im sure as much as anything, including age and where a player has come from. For Gallagher or Kaminski to be on a similar but extended deal would not cause any noticeable rise on the current wage bill, to put Nyambe on par with those 2 will, hence why they are totally different situations. The fact that we have offered as much as we can suggests that we need the owners to be more flexible in how much they are willing to spend to protect an asset.

As a team 4th in the league fighting for promotion with 12 games to go, we cannot be resting Travis to try and avoid him getting out of a yellow card. There would still be 2 games after the Fulham game plus there is no reason why we shouldn't be going to Fulham, as hard as that game will be aiming to bring a result back, we need to get out of this mindset that any game is a free hit. Travis has really developed since Mowbray gave him a chance when we all expected Smallwood to be reinstated, and he has this season become more mature as a defensive midfielder.

He will be on much less than a player that signed from a PL club as an older player, it goes without saying. Its not realistic to expect a player to have his wage multiplied so much having last signed as a squad player breaking through to match presumably one of our highest earners. Crass management my arse. He will leave because he will fancy his chances of getting more money elsewhere.

Waggott implied that for all 3 players out of contract, we had offered as much as was permitted in our budget from the owners. Surely with Nyambe having last signed when he wasnt an established regular as he is now, he will (justifiably) be demanding a noticeable increase being in a much stronger negotiating position, which would cause our wage bill to go up. Gallagher claimed to have taken a pay cut to come here but youd still imagine he is up there with our highest earners, same with Kaminski as a senior player, so youd think that their wages wont have jumped noticeably with an extension if it all therefore the wage structure remains unchanged.

It has been said in the fans forun that we have offered as much as we can according to the budget so how is it down to the management team? You assumed a fee, a wage and that we will definitely sign him to make that point.