Here is the part where Mowbray is talking about Rothwell. Plenty of praise and appreciation for his talent, him saying that he isnt very good shouldnt be taken out of context, it is about him learning about what to do off the ball which is not ideal if in a midfield 2 which I agree with.

Hopefully they will keep Solskjaer for many years to allow him to constantly underachieve to my amusement.

Take a step back, why is it considered normal that having finished 2nd last season above Chelsea and Liverpool, that both have surpassed United to the point where they are no longer competitive with them and aren't even part of the title race? Chelsea got a proper manager with a proven track record. He has had time to build a squad packed full of quality, he spent 80m on Maguire, was it 40m for Wan Bissaka, 60m on Fernandes, 40m on Van De Beek, and now 80m on Sancho and the huge signings of Ronaldo and Varane. He has been there for a few years so why he warrants loads more is a mystery when the team looks so poorly coached. The players they have, they should be expecting to challenge for the title. They weren't particularly successful although after winning trophies, Mourinho was certainly more successful than Solskjaer. But my point is that Carragher had it right, previous poor choices shouldn't remove the ambition from the club to seek out a top quality manager going forward.

I can't fathom how you could think that he should keep his job. The problems with the team are blatant symptoms of a poorly coached team, badly organised, not good off the ball, not working hard enough etc. Why would fighting for a last Champions League spot with Leicester be in anyway acceptable when they finished 2nd last season and as well as the big money deal for Sancho they signed Ronaldo and Varane this summer, 2 serial winners who are very much for the here and now rather than building for the future? They should be challenging for the title with the money Solskjaer has spent, with the players he has been allowed to bring in and the time he has had. Neville is having a bit of a shocker on Sky Sports, he has cornered himself with his stance of never suggesting that managers should be sacked and his loyalty to United and his old team mate Solskjaer is creating a bias. Carragher is spot on, just because they have appointed good managers in the past that haven't worked out, it shouldn't mean that they shouldn't strive to get a top class manager going forward. Chelsea, City and Liverpool have probably the 3 best managers around, why should United stick with someone who has a piss poor CV in comparison?

I hope not as it is hilarious to see them at the moment, but surely Solskjaer will be at the job centre tomorrow morning. Such a poorly organised and coached side.

Cant argue with that.

There is absolutely no suggestion that the reason that these players wont sign new deals is that Mowbray wont consent to pay rises to 10k. He has regularly said that he wants them to stay but that it is down to the owners because they want more than we are currently offering which is as much as we can within the strict budgets.

When a team is winning it is natural for the other team to be further forward trying to score. But I don't think we sat back that much or ever looked likely to concede, in fact if anyone was to score I would have said it was us.

Why specifically until that date? And from who, I doubt that anyone who wants Mowbray out will have changed their mind today. Had we lost, he would remain with us 3 points worse off.

Good win today, Mowbray wasn't going regardless of the result so people just need to enjoy it for what it is. He deserves credit too for his team selection and his game management, he got it right today just as he has got things wrong in recent weeks. Drab, lifeless first half but dominant in the second half. Dolan had a strange game, had he gone off after an hour then it would have been justified, he looked slow, off the pace and was making poor decisions. His goal was superb though and he repeatedly gave their defender nightmares when Mowbray moved him wide left which was a good move, although his cut backs were poor and he should have passed for Brereton at the end. Brereton was fairly quiet today, Gallagher was better and could have had 2 or 3. Poveda lost the ball once too many although played one or two good balls, notably a great cross which should have led to a third after a clever Brereton knock down. Rothwell was fairly quiet aside from some more genius for the first goal, so much more influential than Buckley who needs to do more and also needs to stop getting needless bookings. Travis was ok but not at his best. The 2 defensive injuries are major worries, Van Hecke certainly has a mistake in him so if Ayala is injured for a few weeks, hopefully Wharton can be involved next weekend.

Can you share these tweets please. He is out of contract at the end of the season, so I very much doubt that there is more to read into it than that. I think (may be wrong) that the second tweet reads like Mercer which would remove any likelihood of it being correct.

Main achilles heel implies that he has other weaknesses. That being said, I do not see enough to suggest that a lack of effort or care from him is causing any of the issues we see. It is a shame that things are becoming somewhat toxic as he did a good job initially, he seems a decent guy and he is the best manager in the last 10 years, albeit that isn't an honour to be particularly proud of. I don't doubt that he thinks that he can turn it around and that he does care but this last 18 months have been going backwards and will continue to do so.

But there is no suggestion that Mowbray genuinely "doesn't give a shit." He spends numerous days living on his own away from his family, and there is no suggestion that he doesn't put in the hours. Ultimately he is a dour man anyway, add some awkward questions about his underperforming and he is never going to give off energy and charisma. His main achilles heel has been bizarre tactical decisions that stem from overthinking, it always has been. Strange tactical choices such as 3 at the back, Clarkson almost as a false 9 etc, they have similarities to playing Bell and Williams down the left hand side at home to Oldham, saying how much he respects the Bury right back etc. Going from extreme possession football to being bottom of the same table in the next season, from one extreme to another. He is always trying to get ahead but seldom do his crazy ideas work. That is an issue of competence, not effort, and that is what we need from our manager.

Not at all. If we go one or two down, there will be moans and groans, boos, maybe "Mowbray sort it out," it might lead to a few spiky answers in a press conference. I don't see any benefit though because it will not hasten his exit. Him "making a knob of himself getting all defensive" would not be of any consolation to me whatsoever. It wouldn't make a difference, Venkys would be oblivious even if you could get mass participation which wouldn't happen. Went on numerous protests against Kean, remember all of the different ways that the action group etc got publicity, it made no difference, so a comparatively much milder protest will not make a difference.

The Ainsworth obsession on accounts of who he supports is a little strange. Him jumping around on the sidelines or who he supported as a child would be no consolation to me if we lost games under him. The decision should not factor in who people support or how they act on the touchline. As said previously, Allardyce used to spend half the game watching from above in the stand, Coyle spent the whole game animated in full kit, who would we prefer?

It is typical management spiel really, deflection, excuses, he does to be fair repeatedly acknowledge that management is about results. The results are the issue, not what he says about the results. He is also right that we would potentially have to punch above our weight to get into the play offs. The thing is, although difficult, it is possible, Barnsley did it last season, Coventry are in there this season, there will be plenty of other examples. Under Mowbray, that is not and has never been likely or close. We have never come close under Venkys "regime" due to their repeated negligence and inability to appoint a good manager, hence how Mowbray is actually the best that they have ever appointed, which tells you all that you need to know. https://www.lancs.live/sport/football/football-news/blackburn-rovers-mowbray-response-form-21936604 "the side frequently embarking on patches of scintillating form" More nonsense in the Lancs Live.

I am not sure that staying at a mid table (likely bottom half) Championship side would have been a wiser choice. The grass is greener at Southampton.

Chaddy has not proven anything regarding FFP. He posted 3 years of statements of profit and losses going up to June 2020 which are not fair barometers because included within those losses are expenses exempt from FFP calculations. There is also the huge question mark of if any additional grace will be given to clubs due to the pandemic. You also need to remember that the figures that chaddy showed are up to 2020 and this summers business is actually 2 years after that. We generated considerable income from Armstrong as well as huge wage savings which will show in this year. An expectation of reinvesting a small fraction of that is not unrealistic, unless we were 10m over FFP regulations prior to selling Armstrong of which there is no evidence. There is then the question of whether setting such a strict budget is beneficial for FFP. It isnt because it means that saleable assets leave on free transfers, that opportunity cost far outweighs giving them a few more thousand a week to begin with, which itself has been accomodating by mass releasing of senior players. So defending the owners based on FFP wouldnt make sense on contractual issues even if it was down to that. This FFP argument has come solely from our supporters for some reason. If it was the reason that we didn't spend more, surely at some point during a summer in which Mowbray was being asked regularly about transfers and why we hadnt done any, surely he would have used it as an excuse for working from such a strict budget? Even when Waggott has been interviewed, he has never mentioned it as an excuse. You have chosen to perceive my thoughts about a totally unrelated matter as some sort of defence about a man who I have repeatedly stated that I think should have been sacked long ago. Also, you say that we have a small chance of removing Mowbray. Do we? They never have listened to protests in the past, even if there was mass involvement which there wouldnt be because Mowbray isnt universally unpopular just the same as Venkys. I think with Mowbray, many put their head in the sands thinking and hoping blindly that once he is removed, which he should be may I reinstate, that most of the problems will go with him. They wont.

I am not absolving him of blame, you are just talking about something that I was not discussing. I want the manager out, last season showed massive regression. I also criticised him for his lack of ruthlessness upon promotion. My point was that Venkys do not run the club in a logical or constructive way. It is Venkys and Venkys alone who have set the budget so tight and with such a short term view that we are going to lose key players and sellable assets for free. That has nothing to do with how Mowbray has spent previous budgets (mixed, a major positive just made us 10m plus) and that is not a justification of what Venkys are doing this season. If they dont trust him, then sack him. Nor should contract offers be suddenly pulled away from people. Shit ownership as ever.

My point was not relevant or specific to Mowbray, solely to do with how badly our club has been and is continuing to be run.

The owners are not a major problem, they are THE major problem. My post was not a defence of Mowbray, it was in fact nothing specifically to do with him. It is a reiteration that the wankers that own our club are continuing to and will continue to hinder this club as long as they own us. I keep repeatedly stating that I want a change of manager, but ultimately the aforementioned owners lack the active interest in the club once described as "their baby" to make such a decision.

Not the point that I was making, which was that whilst Venkys are here, we will constantly be plagued by this sort of shit that has been here ever since they arrived. We can never thrive with them, as we will see at the end of the season when our best players leave. Downing was excellent in his first season, so his recommendation in this instance overall was a wise one. He was always playing catch up without a pre season especially at his age, and he was only signed due to unavailability issues according to Downing himself in the second year. It was budgetary issues, but Downing was under the impression that the rug had been pulled out from Mowbray after a contract had been agreed prior. Take a listen on spotify. Undr the Cosh, last 10 minutes of Part 2.

Do people not rate him? I think it is a commonly held opinion that he is an important first team player who we will miss. Not sure where he will go and indeed whether it would be millions to replace him, he does have his limitations and is pretty poor going forward although he is a good one on one defender, although you know under Venkys that we will be going into next season with an inferior replacement, whether that is the cheapest possible replacement externally or the constantly injured, average winger that is Rankin Costello. But whilst I share your desire for a change of manager, not everything is Mowbrays fault. He doesn't negotiate contracts, and there are 2 sides to negotiations anyway so perhaps Nyambe was unwilling to commit for longer. But Mowbray has said numerous times that he would like the soon to be out of contract players to stay, but that the problems are financial because of the budget cuts from Venkys. If you want someone to blame for the farcical situation around player contracts, Venkys should be the go to.

Not sure where is best to put this, but Stewart Downing has a double part podcast with undr the cosh available on spotify. Only within the last 10 minutes in the second episode does it mention us really, going back to when a pre-agreed contract offer was pulled 10 days before the season was pulled by the owners due to budgetary issues, Mowbray was embarrassed and frustrated to make the call apparently. Our owners pulling the rug out from under people again. Badly advised?

In terms of content, it is much better than usual although as I tend to find with all of his articles, it still borders on being unreadable with an overreliance on cliches and seemingly a desperation to use big words when they are unnecessary or even at times not befitting where they are placed. Ideally he should be putting this sort of questioning to the manager at press conferences but I suspect that he doesn't.