Exactly. This is the guy who, from day one said "we can't keep asking them to spend". The same guy who couldn't get £2m out of them for a Desso stitch pitch yet he expected us to believe that he would talk them into funding a new state of the art, all in one, training facility. Give over. You'd have to be an idiot to fall for that. Sadly, that's exactly what we saw. Just as concerning as the scheme was the number of Rovers fans backing the idea. 'Move with the times', 'brand new', 'we need an upgrade', 'why can't you be positive', 'it's going to be state of the art'. We even had one or two dismissing the idea of Uncle Jack's legacy, playing it down, before backtracking. It was too late though, they showed their hand. Unbelievable how a liar in a suit had many deceived just by the use of four words: State. Of. The. Art. It's been happening for hundreds of years with politicians talking shit to the public. Using clever wording, telling people what they want to hear and then delivering eff all. He would be more at home with them. The fact he is at such a prestigious football club and is trying to turn it into Crewe or Barnsley is tragic.

Even as a Championship side back then, we had it in us to do this. Now, the scum we have beg Liverpool for kids on loan and are proud when one of them agrees to sign.

It feels like it is all going to go off pretty soon imo and it would be nothing less than those charlatans deserve. The Ewood crowd will turn organically when results and performances nosedive, as they almost certainly will if the squad isn't sufficiently strengthened. The players and Eustace need to know this goes beyond them. As much as I don't rate Eustace, this isn't about him. It has been 14 years of this shit and our problem is with the hierarchy. That's the top and bottom of it. Got a feeling the Insider is waiting for the August Court hearing before unleashing. I'm all for it as I couldn't care less about Waggott and the others with him, in the same way they aren't arsed about Rovers. Those people do not represent our club, for me. They are not Rovers.

I'm seeing this 'agenda' thing differently. I don't know if anybody else is noticing a theme here. The theme being that anybody who speaks out against Swag or the shadow man is a troublemaker with an axe to grind. This could be, imo, a deflection tactic. After JDT and GB departed, we saw a rise in ITK's suddenly sharing 'info' which portrayed those two as being the problem. This happened here, on another forum and on the likes of Facebook etc. According to their 'sources', JDT was a troublemaker for speaking out the way he did, the players didn't like him and he 'wasted his budget on midfielders'. At the same time, GB didn't know what he was doing, he was causing trouble by doing an interview with a YouTube channel rather than via the official channels and he was going to waste money on x, y and z before the hero that is swag stepped in. This is the kind of, imo, shit that the ITK's were being fed and were then relaying to the fans. The end result? Blame deflected away from swag and the shadow man, with many blaming JDT and GB for the shitshow. Ironically, the only two people who spoke about Rovers being a Premier League club again. Back to the Insider. He posts a tweet claiming that Mr Shadow told Pune there's no need to spend. The following day or two then sees us linked with Krul, Cooper, the Hull defender and Dykes. It is later played down with 'erm, Rovers aren't at the spending stage yet, but they are interested and have had talks'. Now the suggestion is that the Insider is probably an ex employee out to cause trouble. Fans are already guessing who it could be. Is it GB? Is it somebody else? Again, this is taking the heat away from swag and his sidekick and vaguely laying it elsewhere. 'Oh, that Insider account? Ignore. Just someone causing bother, mate'. That's the type of vibe I'm getting. The Insider could be talking shit, he/she could be making that Pune tweet up, but I'm looking at it in context of the following two quotes and wondering whether it possibly tallies up? 1) The owners have been very generous to us and it's time for us to give them something back. We can't keep going to them and ask them to spend every time. (Swag in 2018 following L1 Promotion.) 2) The owners are excited and wanted a double bounce, another promotion, I had to calm them down and tell them to put their money away, that we need to gradually build a team to reach the Premier League. (Mowbray in the summer of 2018 following L1 Promotion.) How believable is it that the shadow man has told Pune 'no need to spend, we can wash our own face'? It's believable to me given everything that has happened over recent years, but that's just my opinion. Not that it matters much, but I'm siding with the Insider on this and think he/she has touched a nerve somewhere with their posts.

I'm so glad to see that there are people out there that can see the truth of the situation. Some of our own fans could do with seeing this and then taking a look at themselves in the mirror. These lads were spot on and have captured pretty much most of our feelings on here. The words 'disgrace' and 'joke' were mentioned along with a call for the club to be taken off Venky's. Also, much respect for the fella in the black t-shirt. He couldn't have put it any better for me: "Everybody's got really nice Barclay's (Premier League) memories of Blackburn and to see them like this...it's just disgusting". Well said, that man!

Six minute highlights. Newly promoted and going toe to toe at Highbury. 🎵Dunny for England🎵

That's the law of attraction for you in a nutshell. Just be positive. Forget reality. Comforting lies are more appealing. 'Ah well'. Seems to be a widespread sentiment among plenty in the Rovers fanbase today in regards to our decline. Almost as if the rest of us dreamt the years before Venky's. Let's have it right, the only narrative here is to see Blackburn Rovers prosper again. That is where the anger and 'negativity' is stemming from, seeing clueless tossers with not a fibre of winning intent running the club into the ground constantly. Over and over. Year in, year out. Bringing more shame, embarrassment and disgrace upon the club. But no, people are being unreasonable to be getting wound up about any of this. Why not 'manifest' positivity instead, eh? How liberating that is. There's no doubt that Chaddy wants the same as everybody else here, Rovers back in the Prem and the club restored to how we were back in 2010, his own words. He just tries to paint a positive picture, a picture which doesn't exist in reality, but something which some might find comforting. When there's something to genuinely be positive about, people will see it on here. But that process will not begin until we are rid of Venky's, Waggott, Pasha and the rest of the hangers on.

Back when we could score injury time winners:

What a free kick from Sav:

Brad being Brad:

33. Roy Wegerle

That might just be the worst Rovers kit in my lifetime. IMO, another embarrassment to add to a whole host of them under this regime.

Has the same agent as Tim Krul. Ironically, the agency is known as FFP.

Exactly how I see it too. I haven't taken to Eustace, but his comments over the past few days feel similar to what JDT was saying before him. He's putting it out there that he wants pace out wide, three or four quality players and that the recruitment team is working on it. Eustace isn't ever likely to call out the idiots he is working under like JDT did, but I suspect he is starting to get irritated by the shambles. Any manager would feel it under this lot. Rats like Steve Kean are the exception. It's only his sort that would merrily put up with this shit.

The more bad publicity for swag and the rest of them alongside him, the better it is for us in the long run, in my view. I genuinely hope more female players come forward with their thoughts and views. We know how things like this, particularly relating to women's football, can snowball on places like twitter and the like. I absolutely hate that our club is being spoken about like this. However, these ladies are inadvertently playing a big part in helping us to get the message out there. A message about how the club is ran. This is bringing unwanted attention to swag and co and will be making them uncomfortable. Good. It feels to me as though the pressure is starting to ramp up from all angles on this hierarchy. It has been a long time coming. If any of those ladies players are reading this or anybody else that has been at Rovers these last 14 years and has left disappointed, I can only apologise. This is not the real Blackburn Rovers and it hasn't been since November 2010. Most of us have been ashamed at the way this club has been ran since late 2010. That club, the real Rovers, will be back once Venky's, Waggott and the rest of the hangers on leave the building.

I hope a few of the journos have been taking a look at this place, Waggy. Exactly what was being called for a few days ago. National attention on the bastards.

While this isn't good news for the women's team, I am pleased to see it being reported that this lot are under investigation. There are still people out there (non Rovers fans) who assume that these are now good owners for Rovers because: a) they are still here b) the public circus seen from 2010-13 has died down and c) because there are no visible fan protests. As a few have said here, I also see this as a desperate move. IMO, frantically trying to cut costs wherever they can in the absence of funds arriving from India. I think the end is drawing near and what a day it is going to be when that news breaks: 'Venky's put Blackburn Rovers up for sale'. It's coming. I think we're witnessing the process of them being forced out.

'I don't like Venky's but...the fans are to blame too'. Always the theme. Tea and biscuits, anybody? The mask always slips somewhere along the way, Mark, and we're here for it. They won't find gullible folk here who will swallow any old crap. Which is why they criticise this place and leave in a huff when the club's bullshit is called out. We're negative moaners, are we? I forget what a wonderful 14 years we have had. Almost everybody on here, including me, was excited and upbeat about JDT and our potential under him. The one manager on our wavelength.They conveniently forget that bit though regarding this place. Why did that positivity dissipate? Oh yeah, due to this shitbag hierarchy and its antics. AGAIN. We'll forget that too though. Better to stick with brfcs = negative, moaners. No mate, we aren't nodding snowflakes that swallow propaganda. I'm still waiting to see the hoardes of clubs that want to sign Travis and Buckley as they are the envy of the Championship, apparently. Bollocks. If Venky's sell it means administration apparently. Of course it does. Sounds very much like the recent doomsday LT headline and the 'but who will buy is' rhetoric from other quarters. There isn't a person in the world who would want to buy Blackburn Rovers, folks. How very positive, from those who want to read 'positivity' on here. The irony and then the nerve to blame the fans for this mess. Piss off.

That you have and fair play for doing so. I particularly liked seeing the piece in The Athletic where you talked about the need to raise standards, us currently being a "nothing club" and the explanation provided regarding the Court situation. It summed up a lot of our thoughts, I felt. Let's hope some of those that you spoke with are waiting to see what happens in August before putting more out there. The point I was getting at was, that at present, if anybody was to type any variant of "Venky's investigation" or "Venky's properties seized" etc into Google, they would find no UK tabloid source that comes up with a story about it. Such a story, imo, should have had more press attention in the UK than it has at present. That isn't a slight on your efforts in any way though.

Agree with everything said and have highlighted this as it is this lazy narrative that infuriates me. Never mind the regression on the pitch. Never mind the lack of investment in the transfer market. Never mind having to make do with kids in the squad. Never mind the mess in the Boardroom. The bills are being paid. Is that what the game has come to? Let's wheel out the 'we've paid the bills trophy' and have Waggott's smiley mug on the website. That's about this lot's level. It is the bit in bold along with things like 'but look at Bury' which has caused a lot of damage in our fanbase, imo. Constant repetition of 'but but who else will buy us' and 'but but £20m'. The people who use this (agenda driven outsiders can piss off) and those who accept this as a defence of the ownership have, imo, lost sight of what the game is about and what made them fall in love with football and Rovers in the first place. This has been said before, but since when is billionaires carrying out a legal duty in paying the bills for a club they own, something to be commended and made a massive deal out of? It's their flaming duty to pay the bills, no matter the amount. It comes with the territory. Where else do we hear this sort of praise in top level football? Can't pay, too much to pay? Leave. It's not for you. Sell to somebody else. We aren't dealing with near paupers here facing a difficult choice whether to fund the club or not, who heroically and out of the kindness of their hearts manage to find the money to keep the club going. Yet the PR would have us believe that's the case. These are the only owners being praised for paying the bills and when considering the state they have the club in now, from where they picked it up, it's pathetic.

It also highlights the state of journalism these days. Somebody said it on here yesterday and was spot on, it is in the main, PR and brainwashing. This lot have had properties seized in India, are under Court investigation over there and seemingly require Court permission to send funds over, yet not one of the national newspapers in this country has reported on any of this. Why not? The reports and links that many of us have seen in this regard have come from India or other sources abroad. The argument that they (the nationals) aren't interested in Rovers has some truth to it, but the owners of an English Football Club being investigated abroad and having properties seized is surely a newsworthy story? No? It's a real possibility that without the fans discovering this, none of us may have been any the wiser. Instead of such reporting, we are treated to, imo, disgusting PR around these tossers. The local paper running a headline a couple of weeks ago about how Rovers could be worse off without Venky's. We've seen that podcast prick and his agent buddy trotting out how fantastic and loyal Venky's are. Then we've got knobheads on twitter spouting the 'Venky's are the best owners in the UK' tripe, whilst blaming everything on the long suffering fans. Am I living in some sort of alternate reality? WTF is going on here? There's no better example of fiction being better than reality than the absolute bullshit around Venky's and Rovers. They've near enough destroyed our club and reduced it to this state. Drove away 10,000 fans. Lowered the standards every year. Done nothing to put things right and have now turned us into a development club, scrambling around for any kids we can get on loan. From a solid Premier League club to a development club that is on the verge of L1 again. Reality. "Without Venky's Rovers would be in trouble. Fantastic owners. They don't get the respect they deserve. Best owners in the UK. They have been so generous, we need to give them something back. The owners really want promotion, they had it tough during the pandemic but still kept up with funds, they are fantastic. Oh, the court hearing, it's just a minor misunderstanding, it will be cleared up soon and doesn't affect Rovers". Fiction. For the outsiders looking on...it's quite simple. Where were Blackburn Rovers in October 2010 before these owners arrived and where are they today? Fantastic owners? What a load of shit! We see through the PR.

Classic Morten:

Bentley. Pedersen. Santa Cruz. Quality.

A fantastic team goal:

32. Graeme Le Saux