Narrator: He isn’t

Ah yeah that rings a bell actually, sorry. He was perm at Wigan and Leeds signed him rather than being there on loan. Thought it was a bit odd he didn't actually start many at Wigan if he had come in on loan, but that makes much more sense.

He only started in 8 of those games to be fair. Was at Wigan on loan previously, so would seem a stall in his progression if you go back to the same level/club on loan 2 or 3 years later.

That would be a disappointing haul from 4 of the bottom 6 teams. 1.5 points a game doesn't get you top 6 over a whole season, let alone against the weakest teams in the league. 8 points minimum ideally and head into Watford on 50 (dependent on when Blackpool is rearranged)

Transfer window will make or break it (like last season) - we were on 46 points with a +13 GD at this stage last season vs 42 points and 0 GD, and we all remember how it ended! I think Boro, WBA and Watford take 3rd to 5th unless they lose any key players in Jan. Whilst Millwall, Luton and Norwich if they strengthen battle for 6th. We end up slumming it out with Sunderland, Coventry, Swansea and PNE for a top 10 finish. I fancy us to finish exactly 10th. The next 3 or 4 games are huge for us though, beat all those struggling teams and I'll start to believe we can do it, as it's looking like a potential record low points total to get into the top 6 at this rate. 70 points was enough in 19/20 for Swansea who finished 6th, and at this stage the playoff places were occupied by 44, 43, 42, 41 points

I agree League 1 is laughable, but I also think CL with Dortmund is laughable.

6 points from their last 12 games, conceding 26 goals in the process (2.17 per game). Rovers are still odds against to win! It would be great to go into the 3pm matches with 3 points and a 6 point cushion. Unbelievably, we have actually lose more matches this season than Rotherham (12 vs 11)! As others have said, next 4 games are all bottom 6 clubs (dependent when Blackpool is rescheduled too). A massive month for us, lets hope it's not like a Mowbray New Year!

If Klopp highly rated him, he wouldn't be on loan here at 20 years old, he'd be in their squad, especially given CM is probably their lightest area. Elliott 19 years old, Carvalho 20 years old, Jones 21 years old all featuring regularly for them now on the highest stage.

Mental isn't it, and people on here are saying Wharton has 'shown nothing' since Blackpool. He's had similar output in terms of G/A in about 1/10th the amount of starts as him! Players like Morton should be ten a penny in an academy like Liverpool, they should be flying him straight to Dortmund for 20m if that rumour is anyway true

Because teams just walk through us in the middle. We have Wharton, Morton, Buckley who can supposedly pass a ball, along with Dack further forward, if they can't then why are we signing them up to long contracts / playing a loanee every week.

Exactly this, those two positions are essential. Prio 1 - CM enforcer. Prio 2 - Striker. Anything after this is a bonus. Most importantly, they have to be starters, none of this 'filling the squad', 'back up' nonsense. That's not what the January window is about when you're 3rd in the league. I don't care if they're permanent, or loans, as long as they improve the starting 11.

Let’s get ahead of ourselves, why the hell not…… If either ourselves or Burnley get through to the Quarter Finals (decent chance given both teams 4th round draws), it’ll be the same weekend we’re meant to play in the league at home so that fixture will need moving. Will be interesting to see how they move it given it’s an obvious sky fixture (would they move to a midweek night match?)

Why the bollocks would you want to draw Leicester or Southampton? Less likely to progress, hardly a ‘big’ club to draw any attention, wouldn’t draw in home fans and wouldn’t shift loads of away tickets (£) like an actual big club.

Absolute nonsense, everyone said the same about Dack. He’s played 340 league minutes since Blackpool, across about 20 games. Morton has played over 1500 minutes in the same period. He might not have impressed (he did score against Birmingham), but if that’s your opinion it’s because he hasn’t been given a chance to

Still scratching my head at the amount on here saying he was Finnish 🇫🇮 after about 70 minutes Football across 10 games

Yeah I agree. Don’t think he’s the type we’d be after anyway, high wages, bit of a risk, waste of young potential

No Cantwell in the Norwich squad suggests he’s off somewhere.

Even longer for the pitch to recover! Probably had enough time to relay it all after Cardiff 😂 (unless we win tomorrow and get a home cup match)

We need players to improve our starting 11 not just to pad out the squad, so based on that I’d look to fill the gaps below (if we don’t sell Diaz) Kaminski Brittain - Hyam - Ayala - Pickering ??? - ??? Hedges - Dack - Diaz ??? Then I’d also look at a full back given their injuries and lack of depth. Prio 1: CM dominator. Prio 2: Goalscorer. Prio 3 CM box to box. Then let Wharton, Carter, JRC, Buckley, Morton, Wharton, Dolan, Szmodics, Gallagher be your squad players who can rotate in for injuries, rest, cup matches

So because he likes to train on grass, we’re now not able to play our matches on grass….as I didn’t see much greenery on that surface yesterday. Yeah I guess the indoor facilities are not comparable to the biggest clubs in the world but I’m pretty sure they’re good enough for a Championship club for a few days training

Don’t we have state of the art indoor training facilities? Pathetic that we’re training on the pitch in my opinion

Yeah 538 uses xG pretty much to model it. It will be similar to what bookmakers odds are offered. It’s essentially saying if we produce similar performances in the games left like you say then the results will be very different and we’d slip down the league

West Brom have won 8 of their last 9 now, and only conceded 2 goals in that spell. I’d be very surprised if themselves and Boro (won 7 in 9) miss out on the top 6 given their squad quality and how they’re statistically rated.

27 days until we next play on that pitch, hopefully they can get it back into a decent state as it was pretty shocking today.

Wigan after that too. We need to be on 50+ points after those 4 (30 games)