Absolutely, in a top of the table classic. Remember the hordes from Plymouth arriving in their coaches at about 8.00 am. Also, remember Souey signing Yordi just before the Football League Cup Final in 2002 at Cardiff and putting him on the bench. If I remember correctly, Yordi came on with about 20 minutes to go and almost netted with a header! That's a feckin cup final - IMO, Mowbray doesn't half p1ss about.

Mentioned it before, if I remember correctly, Keith Fear only met his team mates in the dressing room at Burnley on that famous Boxing Day decades ago. Those of us on The Turf that day were amazed when the team was read out on the ground. Fear had a stormer as well! Think Mowbray doesn't half talk some tosh.

Feeling good today! Just savouring a Sauvignon Blanc from The Eisele Vineyard which was given as a 'thank you' present - reds don't always rule! Had three winners at Goodwood today, Dirty Rascal, Too Darn Hot and Timoshenko so the SVB is sliding down well! Sorry to disappoint you!

Myhill must be closer to 40 than 30. Underwhelmed, yet again.

Look, I've had enough of what I think is feckin claptrap from Mowbray. 'We need time to bed them in, they need to understand how we play, we need to improve their fitness levels, he's only a kid, he needs to learn how to play the position (not as good as Evans / Smallwood)'. Numerous examples of us signing players and not playing them (Brereton), playing them out of position (Armstrong, Reed etc) or they seemed to be made of glass (Chapman, Davenport, Gladwin). Mowbray has been here for two and a half years now and there is little evidence of success with his scouting network or his contacts. History shows that there are diamonds to be found in both non league and lower league football (home and abroad) - to name just a few who readily come to mind, Keegan, Gordon Hill, Kevin Phillips, Cahill, Charlie Austin, Bullard, Troy Deeney, Smalling, Les Ferdinand, Rickie Lambert, Vardy, Stones, Lucas Neil, Colin Hendry, Samba, Nelsen, Nzonzi and even Mark Atkins from Scunny!!! Sadly for Rovers, I think these days we end up mainly with the Gerard Ratner cr@p. IMO, until we have a manager who knows, and can work, the market, we are going nowhere.

and if Rovers could sign Messi would he be guaranteed game time? It's pretty simple. If we are looking to sign players who are no better than what we have then what the feck is the point? Back in Feb at Blues, I seem to recall Mowbray promising signings that would make a difference and take us to the next level.

As usual, you miss the point and spout some rot! I am talking about Mowbray's reference to physique, strength etc. IMO, it's feckin nonsense. Is there really much difference to physique of De Ligt ? Crouch is a beanpole. With Mowbray's argument, he hasn't the strength and would get bullied by those big bad centre halves (which we are crying out for but Mowbray can't find!!!). And if he feels like Wharton needs bulking up then why the feck do we have gyms and fitness coaches etc. Bulking up is pretty straightforward. Compare Shearer's physique pre cruciate and his other injuries to the latter part of his career. Presumably you think that was down to all the pies he ate and Newcastle Browns he downed!

Of course I'm not. The point I'm trying to make is that I think in Mowbray's eyes they are still 'kids' at 24+!!! Look at his comments on Reed. Goodness me he even referred to Charlie Adam as a 'kid' after the Barrow game. The bottom line, is if they are good enough then they are both old enough and big enough! Peter Crouch might be tall but he has a relatively poor physique - guess Mowbray would be saying words to the effect 'he's not strong enough, centre halves would bully him'. As I say, IMO, he doesn't half talk some real shyte.

IMO, our dinosaur of a manager doesn't half talk some shyte. Good job Ajax didn't loan out 19 year old Matt de Ligt to Lincoln, Northanmpton etc.

Why not? We are playing the mighty newly promoted Charlton who seem to have worse defensive problems them us. Surely, Graham and Tony's near £15million trio of Brereton, Armstrong and Gallagher will be capable of blasting them away.

IMO, bullsh1t, bullsh1t and more bullsh1t. Beggars belief. I don't think Mowbray has a plan or a clue what will happen next.

Let's hope Mowbray's comments prove nearer the mark than those in Blues back in Feb.. Talk is cheap.

Where did I say I have bet on relegation? All I did is state the range of odds and say 'only flutter for me would be 13/2 on relegation' You have a way of twisting words to meet your own ends. As far Charlton, Mowbray has spent close on £15million of fire power in 12 months (Brereton, Armstrong and Gallagher) to supplement Graham, so if we can't blow Charlton away, it's time he went.

Come on Philipl, if we really can't see off Charlton comfortably then we really are screwed!

No ifs, no buts, Charlton should be like lambs to the slaughter. They are newly promoted and seem to have more defensive problems than even us. It has to be a home banker. Highly likely we will concede so it's just a question of how may goals we can rattle in. Piled on at evens for Rovers win and a 'fun' bet of Rovers to win 4-1 at 45/1.

Have said for some time that, IMO, we are severely undermanaged. Yes you need the right number of people in the right roles but, more importantly, you need the right quality! I look at our executive management and the management/coaches on ther football side and to be brutally honest, if it was down to me, I'd sack the feckin lot with the exception of Johnno.

Great post from JHRover.

Quite right. You loan players out for game time and experience. It also helps if the manager plays them in their rightful position! Don't think Mowbray's management of loan players is great and this will have not gone unnoticed at clubs like City.

Maybe the lad hasn't got it and isn't good enough - just like Brereton, IMO. Given Wharton's been in and around the first team squad for 3 years or more now, I feel he should have been given more opportunity. If it's felt he's not good enough, why the feck give him a new contract? It should be simple enough even for the likes of Mowbray and Waggott who, IMO, demonstrate by the day/week/month they are not up to the job.

I think we are a club devoid of commercial nous. I've said before, IMO, Waggott has brought very little to the table to improve our club. At best, Wharton should have been offered no more than a one year contract with a further year's option. If he didn't like it then he knew where the door was. At 21/22, I think it's plain to see he's not going to make it as a Championship player. To me, his development has stalled in the last three years but to be fair to the lad, I think Rovers management of this lad's potential has been abysmal.

As I posted yesterday, I think it's a case of no more fees or wages unless matched by equal or greater outgoings. I think we are financially hamstrung which questions the wisdom of shelling out £5million on Gallagher when clearly there were far more bigger priorities. Brereton revisited........................................

Not surprised with LT article and Mowbray's comments. Bottom line - don't think there's a pot to p1ss in for transfers and the Brereton farce has screwed us big time. After what Mowbray said at Blues to where we are now is, IMO, a complete and utter farce. We need a manger who knows the market and can work it. Have a great weekend all!

Have a word with your bookie! PaddyP, Skybet and WH all offer 16/1.

It's quite a range of odds: Championship winner: 33 to 53/1 Top 2: 16/1 though Betfair will give you either 53/1 or 150/1 dependent upon whether you go through their Sportsbook or Exchange Top 6: 4 to 6/1 Relegation: 9/2 to 13/2 Only flutter for me would be 13/2 on relegation.