Just where the feck do I say that? Will you stop misquoting / misinterpreting me. The point I made is that by not achieving our goal to get back to the PL, the effect on our finances is huge. Mowbray has to be personally responsible for results on the field of play. I would think the ultimate decision to downsize our training facilities and realise part thereof is down to the owners. And yes we do have a choice. Sell some players - they are replaceable, the STC when houses are built on it isn't!

I think Mowbray's responsibility is to get success on the field and this comes through immaginative and successful player trading, organisation, motivation, coaching, tactics and game management. If he had got that right then I think we would have been back in the PL or getting there this season. If the football manager isn't successful, the club won't be successful and there will be financial struggles. I think the bottom line is our owners have 'lost' getting on for £200million because none of the club's CEO's or football managers they have appointed have cut the mustard. In the days of Bob Lord, Burnley sold a player a season in order to survive and thrive. Who have we got who would bring in £10, £15 or £20million. Brereton and Gallagher who Mowbray signed wouldn't - it would, IMO, be chicken shit in comparison to some £12million in fees we shelled out. I remember Mowbray's words about Brereton at Blues in Feb 2019, something like 'there's a lad who'll be worth £15, £20million in the future'. Well if he'd got it right, I think it's pretty certain we wouldn't be looking to part sell / downsize Brockhall. I think we have one saleable player asset (biggish money) and that's Armstrong. The buck stops with the Football Manager and the CEO and, IMO, neither Waggott or Mowbray have delivered and that's why the club is, IMO, in one big mess.

There you go again. Please when referencing me do not make such false claims. By all means quote me but do not throw sh1t at me. Brockhall - cause, club haemorrhaging money, why, failure to get back to PL, effect partial realisation of club assets with cost reduction.

Please get your facts right! Where have I said that? I said our lack of success (failure to get back to the PL) and, IMO, stagnation under Mowbray and therefore substantial ongoing financial losses has probably resulted in our owners looking at ways to claw back some capital and reduce losses. I think if I were in the Raos' shoes, I would be saying 'right Tony, time to cash in on the diamonds you bought in Brereton and Gallagher'..................!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think you are naive. At the very least, Mowbray, as football manager, would have been consulted. Our owners, allegedly, trust and respect his opinion. IMO, any football manager worth his salt would fight tooth and nail to preserve such a wonderful facility. Footballers can be sold and replaced. Brockhall can't. Also, how many references has Mowbray made in recent times about NOT using the indoor facility as not good on the body - IMO, it all makes sense. I don't think Mowbray is quite as thick as sometimes he seems.

Really? I think if Mowbray had done his job. we would be back in the PL or going back there this season. There is little doubt in my mind that Mowbray's, IMO, failure to move the club forward in his four years is the root cause of huge financial losses and the decisions made by the club about Brockhall. Have said it time and time again - a club like Rovers needs a top class a CEO and Football Manager. We have Waggott and Mowbray - IMO, enough said.

You are right. We need to get smashed in a few games. I think we need 'Maggott', Mowbray and Venus out of our club asap. Kean and Coyle were vilified, however, at least they didn't try to downgrade our magnificent Brockhall complex which is still the envy of many, many football clubs which is what I suspect the 'Coventry three' are very much part of.

If you look at Twitter accounts for Sharpe and Bayes, I think you will see a few have tried to 'rattle their cage' a bit. I don't think either are confrontational type of guys and strike me as being a bit 'jobsworthy' and anything for an easy life. Neither strike me as being ambitious and therefore I don't think we can rely upon them to help to get to the bottom of all this or to pull a few skeletons out of cupboards. If Sharpe and Bayes read BRFCS then I would be delighted if they went and proved me wrong though I'm not holding my breath!

Doubt we'll get half that number going.

It's difficult to convey how much personal anguish this news has brought to me as I'm sure it has brought to many others. When you have followed the club for many decades and through some of its darkest moments and also seen the halcyon days that Jack brought including winning the PL in 1995 and the Football League Cup win in Cardiff in 2002, you feel this may be the beginning of the end. I think it's unlikely I will see the club in the PL again and most certainly will not see the club win the PL again. The younger generation may not understand these sentiments and I pretty much doubt the likes of Bayes and Sharpe will either. IMO, we have awful owners and their own negligence has resulted in the club's demise - from a comfortable top 10 PL club to a mid table (at best) Championship club losing some £20million / season and perhaps forced into part realising it's greatest asset. Hollow words, I think, on respecting Jack's legacy (or similar words to that effect when they bought the club). In Waggott, Mowbray and Venus, we have, IMO, three utterly abysmal managers and the fact that not one of the three, as far as I'm aware, has commented on these proposals speaks volumes. None of them, IMO, would have got anywhere near employment with Rovers in Jack's time. The saddest of times.

There's no one else going to bring in anything of significance. For all Mowbray's hype about squad value, I think the cupboard is almost bare.

Think only Armstrong sale will bring in significant funds. Needs to be viewed in context of scale of annual loss (averaging some £20m over 10 years).

You think of the £20million+ (fees and wages), IMO, spunked up the wall on Brereton and Gallagher in context of the 'destruction' of the club's crown jewel. IMO, this is all down to Mowbray's idiocy and abysmal management - we are further away from the PL as ever. I would happily sell a player every year to keep Brockhall in its entirety intact. Start with Armstrong.

I would not hold your breath on Sharpe stirring things up: 𝐉𝐢𝐧𝐤𝐲𝐣𝐚𝐬𝐞 @jinkyjase 5h Replying to @richsharpe89 It's not the responsibility of the club to determine what happens to the land, but it is their land to sell. Nobody goes after the farmer who sells his land to Redrow for them to develop 500 boxes. Rich Sharpe @richsharpe89 4h correct, and the club have obviously done the due diligence because otherwise no one would buy land earmarked for housing that they then couldn’t build on. That needs to be cleared up and explained though, as planning/employment documents suggest that couldn’t be the case. Think he should be all over this.

Fully agree. Think it would be helpful if you 'Backroom' guys could find a way of collating these types of posts and forward to Messrs Sharpe, Bayes etc. Also, think it would be good for BRFCS to make a 'formal' representation to Ribble Valley Planning as they invite submissions. Historically, you've also been able to make representations in person. I've read some excellent stuff on this thread and constructive, coordinated input to Sharpe, Bayes and Ribble Valley Planning can only help. Also, has anyone within BRFCS got links, contacts to residents in the immediate vicinity of the Rovers' facilities at Brockhall as I am sure there will be a lot of noise emanating from that area and we could feed off one another. This planning application might not be as straightforward as perhaps Rovers think!

Happy days! Recall the 'non performers' or 'those who wouldn't listen' being sent to run round Pleasington away from the 'training pitch'. Kenny showed he still had it!

I also think Mowbray's words about 'kicking his gran' have gone to his head! IMO, the lad just needs to concentrate on his football instead of trying to wind up the opposition by constantly needling them (walking into them, giving them a shoulder etc). Aggression should be channeled the correct way otherwise it can become a needless point and the player loses focus and effectiveness.

Two big concerns for me are Dack and Travis. Many were saying 'just wait until we can throw Dack and Trav in the mix'. IMO, Dack is really struggling. Will he really be the same force again? Was it wise to give him a lucrative new two and a half / three and a half year contract before Christmas? Travis hasn't recaptured his form and to me looks 'leggy' and lethargic.

No. But I'm pretty sure there were no plans submitted to sell off part of the training complex and build houses on it.

So, it seems Tony might be blaming the fans for Nyambe's injury. My message to Mowbray - we've been living in extraordinary times in the last 12 months; you have caused me additional anguish with IMO, your glib soundbites, your bullsh1t and excuse and blame culture. Other fans may feel the same. In the name of God, do the right thing and walk.

I think Mowbray will end up being even more hated than either Kean or Coyle were. IMO, with fans in the ground, he would no longer be in a job. Think the longer this sad escapade drags on then the more horrible and nasty his remaining tenure and eventual departure will be.

So depressed tonight. Won a bundle on Forest win but no solace. Think we are in a real mess. Other than insolvency, I don't know where the feck we are heading.

Disagree. IMO, not the nice, humble, man of integrity guy he's made out to be. He took us down and in reality I don't think we are much better placed than when he first arrived. As a result, seems like owners might have started to realise our assets!

His selection made me think there's been a bit of dissent since Barnsley!

Got banned for a couple of days and also got a couple of urgent jobs on. God forbid but expect to be working most of tomorrow if some info i'm waiting for comes through.