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#21 Flopsy

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Posted 11 July 2006 - 22:02 PM

its alright I got him mixed up with Michael "Pearl Harbour as a chick flick" Bay.

I shall punish myself forthwith

Im not sure whether theyve gone the right way with it and really should be looking at the Starsky and Hutch remake / kitsch comedy and not a hard boiled thriller.

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Posted 12 July 2006 - 01:26 AM

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Posted 16 July 2006 - 16:52 PM

QUOTE(rover6 @ Jul 10 2006, 16:28 ) View Post

I don't know if you've ever heard film critic Mark Kermode ranting about it but if you have, you'll know what I think of it because I agree with him totally.


For a long time now, Kermode's reviews have been compulsive listening in the scouse citroen, when he used to be on Mayo's morning show on 1 on a thursday morning, latterly on 5 live.

I say 'have been', as he came out with some crap on Friday; the suggestion that with 'Superman Returns' there is an undertow with the american public that following the 9/11 and the release of United 93, they are surreptitiously looking for a hero to save the day in this current climate of terrorism.

What complete and utter horsesh1t. It's a blast as a big budget flick, with great special effects and a lovely shiver of nostalgia as you remember the earlier episodes.



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Posted 16 July 2006 - 20:36 PM

I find with Kermode that if he thinks a films rubbish, you should take that with a pinch of salt.

However - if he says a films good/enjoyable or worth a look - hes usually right.

Quite a few other critice Ive watched the films and thought that what they said was good was utter tripe.

Thin Red Line is the one exception - its dull dull dull pretentious dullness is my humble opinion smile.gif

Superman good then? I saw Batman Returns on sky last night - even better than the first time I watched it

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Posted 16 July 2006 - 23:35 PM

Reasonable for Kermode to suggest that Superman Returns might be an allegory about the state of anxiety in the US post 9/11.

Similarly, only the uneducated might think that Deliverance is about a confrontation between backwoodsmen and city types.


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Posted 17 July 2006 - 12:01 PM

QUOTE(jim mk2 @ Jul 17 2006, 00:35 ) View Post

Reasonable for Kermode to suggest that Superman Returns might be an allegory about the state of anxiety in the US post 9/11.

Similarly, only the uneducated might think that Deliverance is about a confrontation between backwoodsmen and city types.


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Posted 17 July 2006 - 12:20 PM

Saw POTC2 over the weekend.

Good fun! I really enjoyed it. The skewer scene was hilarious!

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Posted 17 July 2006 - 15:16 PM

QUOTE(jim mk2 @ Jul 17 2006, 00:35 ) View Post

Reasonable for Kermode to suggest that Superman Returns might be an allegory about the state of anxiety in the US post 9/11.

Similarly, only the uneducated might think that Deliverance is about a confrontation between backwoodsmen and city types.


Its about banjo playing and canoeing isnt it?


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Posted 17 July 2006 - 15:16 PM

not seen it yet on bloody night shift in work!

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Posted 17 July 2006 - 15:28 PM

QUOTE(Flopsy @ Jul 17 2006, 16:16 ) View Post

Its about banjo playing and canoeing isnt it?



Like Superman Returns, Deliverance is an allegory.

You're a grammar school lad who can think "outside the box" (to use horrible modern parlance), so what's the hidden meaning behind Deliverance ?


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Posted 17 July 2006 - 16:07 PM

the inability of man to conquer both nature and his fellow man?

the 4 main characters are forced to face all the things that challenge their status as men, as dictated by modern society (Nature, Survival, Killing, Male Rape?). The 3 survivors are cowed and cannot admit the truth about their ordeal, and so ultimately fail the test set them, as they feel forced to live up to the standards for manhood set out by society.

I think the film is trying to show; that for all it bravado, mankind is unwilling to accept it true and very small place in the grand scheme of things!

Edited by Rovers Air Force, 17 July 2006 - 16:08 PM.

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Posted 17 July 2006 - 16:57 PM

jees a thread about a disney film turns into mind games about the place twinned with burnley only on brfcs.

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Posted 17 July 2006 - 17:24 PM

QUOTE(jim mk2 @ Jul 17 2006, 16:28 ) View Post

Like Superman Returns, Deliverance is an allegory.

You're a grammar school lad who can think "outside the box" (to use horrible modern parlance), so what's the hidden meaning behind Deliverance ?


I think the techies really need to get on with this sarcasm/irony emoticon

And I wouldnt know about deliverence because I havent seen it all the way through - sad I know but hey I always miss the start and come in just after they've escaped.

Still POTC2 was good but I was disapointed with the ending

and kermode was right about waiting till the end of the credits - its not worth the wait

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Posted 17 July 2006 - 20:26 PM

QUOTE(Flopsy @ Jul 17 2006, 18:24 ) View Post

I Still POTC2 was good but I was disapointed with the ending

and kermode was right about waiting till the end of the credits - its not worth the wait

ending>its half time>

kermode ??thats what my nan used to go on before she died.

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Posted 18 July 2006 - 08:14 AM

I went in the first night it was out and really enjoyed the fil think it was good, and the whit was still there from jack sparrow
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Posted 18 July 2006 - 22:23 PM

I sure enjoyed it, a few bits were pretty exruciating, but its a family film (I assume kiddies would have loved that endless wheel fight sequence) after all, and the makers did very well to tread the line between the adult and junior markets.

Plus

***Spoilers, oooh, exciting!***

the promise of the great Geoffrey Rush being back in the third film is a welcome one.
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Posted 18 July 2006 - 22:34 PM

Is Deliverance some sort of allegory about Vietnam?

Can't stand the appearance of the new Superman, looks way too camp to me. So he can go take his super-ass elsewhere.

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Posted 19 July 2006 - 08:48 AM

QUOTE(Bryan @ Jul 19 2006, 00:34 ) View Post


Rover6, when are you going to lighten up? You must be beating the birds off with a pooey stick. "Hey Rover6 bay-bee, tell me more of your scientific dissection of Blackburn Rovers in the nineteen nineties. It just makes me sooooooooooooooooo hot hot hot hot hot hot!"

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Posted 19 July 2006 - 09:28 AM

QUOTE(ABBEY @ Jul 17 2006, 21:26 ) View Post

ending>its half time>

kermode ??thats what my nan used to go on before she died.



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Posted 19 July 2006 - 10:37 AM

QUOTE(Bryan @ Jul 18 2006, 23:34 ) View Post

Is Deliverance some sort of allegory about Vietnam?


Funnily enough, that's the only one I could come up with. The yanks entering into unwelcome territory with self assured superiority, only to get tw@tted by the locals. But at the risk of appearing uneducated ......

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Superman, looks way too camp to me. So he can go take his super-ass elsewhere.


Okaaayyy blink.gif blink.gif

I actually prefer Superman to Pirates. I also read somewhere that Routh was paid a pittance for the role ($200K)? and through bad management had to hand most of that back. The other stars were paid ten times as much, but I'm pretty sure he'll get a decent fee for the next one.

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