He’ll move when he feels like it. The player holds all the cards in situations like this.

... and if we get promoted?

Just not very well.

Then for me, he should play if he's contributing.

Hence we put some sort of clause in that if he gets a certain amount of minutes he plays here. If not then yes move him on

I think Tyjon leaves next summer whether he plays 4 minutes or 4000 minutes to be honest.

I would buy it if it were working!

The tyjon dilemma I think most posters are right in their views I do think ideally another 10 would be better so he isn’t flogged but I also do think the only way of knowing if he’s as good as we/other clubs think he is we should be using him. As mentioned before Sunderland used 3 teenagers last year with great effect Now it’s not proven that works all the time but to incentivise him staying make him sign a pro deal give him minutes and let’s see if the hype is real

That is the same for all talent in all championship clubs though not just rovers

Sadly, as a club I think we have regressed so badly there isn't much credibility about. Any real talent isn't going to hang about long irrespective of what Ismael says - they can virtually set themselves up for life with just one 'big' move. To have a chance of retaining top young talent for any length of time, we need to be playing in the PL and as a bare minimum holding our own. Sadly, those days may well have now gone for good such is the state of our club.

Yes I read that but he still hasn't signed a pro deal. Just saying he should be given an ultimatum to sign or we basically develop him for someone else.

Who in my opinion is deeply average.

You focus on the negative side and what happens if not ready and whether we know every single time, But Ismael and the staff will know and we have a talent on our hands, we should be develop Igor Tyjon. By him having a pathway and Ismael siting down with Tyjon and his parents to show them how Ismael wants to use him and develop him is a way of keeping here long term contract No one has said every young player is going to be like Wharton but when you have talent like Tyjon you need to bring him through just like we did with Wharton, Raya and Buckley. Its a good job we didn't your opinion and stance on bringing Wharton or Raya otherwise they might not be quality Premier League players.

Here in Malta I am out for my morning walk by 6.30am and go for the evening walk at 7.30pm or later. Heat won't be so intense at 7pm CEST but will still be a shirt soaker for our players. In contrast, the Qatar players will be in their thermals as it is mid 40s and upwards there this time of the year.

That’s right. How many first team games will he get at Arsenal do you think ? He’ll be loaned out to somebody either at our level or below.

I walked into that one didn't I, doh!

Nah I'm sorry that's not good enough. The club have to start acting in a way that either protects assets or maximises the output of the squad. If he's ready to start contributing but hasn't signed a contract I have no interest in developing him this year for him to walk to Arsenal at the end of it. If these talks have been held then he'll know what is on the table. Sign and play, otherwise he should be used as and when required and no more.

It's a great debate to have. Not sure it would help though even if legal. I understand (adjunctive therapies defo NOT my expertise) that some emerging research suggests that certain peptides, particularly growth hormone (like BPC157 or TB500, again, so I'm told), MAY play a role in accelerating tissue repair and reducing inflammation. It's certainly not NHS approved! :-) and they're not part of standard UK medical practice and best considered 'experimental or off-label'. Anyway as you say they're banned in competitive sports and probably carry longer term risks for the player. He's got what he's got and my guess is it's something that won't go away, so one for us to avoid. But, what do I know, play and pay may be worth a punt to lessen our risk, could be a Hail Mary that pays off.

We beat Barcelona 3-2 in Reus with a Shearer hattrick. So is this the Qatar WC squad we are playing? https://www.rovers.co.uk/matches Gobsmacked- there is a GBP5.99 offer to watch both Qatar and Elche on Rovers TV!

I have to say Usyk has surprised me as I knew he was good but there were signs a few years ago he might not be one of the greats. Bellew was ahead on points when Usyk stoped him, and then Chisora gave him a very tough fight when he stepped up. I felt like a good big one would just be too good for him, but that's not the way it has played out. Parker has improved and has earned the shot. Had Dubois not got injured in this clash with Parker, then the New Zealander may well have been fighting for the unified belts last Saturday. Not that I think he'd win, but it should be the next port of call for Usyk. After that, he's beat all of this generation and probably should stop.

No really good young player is going to stay at Rovers long term. Those days are long gone. If we couldn’t keep somebody like Adam Wharton we won’t be able to keep anyone.

That is just an overused cliche. He is very young and has had injuries (perhaps part of growing) even playing for the Under 21s. All I propose is adding a player to compete with Cantwell. As it stands, if he is unavailable, we would have to flog Tyjon and dismissing the outdated notion that "hes a young lad, he should be able to play every day", we dont know if he could physically sustain that sort of workload at senior level. He struggled in academy football. Bringing someone in would prevent that and we can use Tyjon when we want to. Theres still scope for plenty of football for him, and he can still earn a place. We ultimately also dont know if he is up to it quality wise yet at Championship level. Well, all the above depends on his future. If he wont commit then it makes little sense to put so much work into developing him.

This isn't a kick about up the park to be fair Rev. Even in the paltry 'kids football' as it is coined around here, the miles and high intensity sprints that footballers are expected to do these days are incredible. A lot of league 2/1 players survive because of their physicality; you'll find some magnificent technical players in the National League and below but they won't have that natural fitness to survive professional football. It has moved on from being able to play every day at whatever age you play at now.

So not a contract. Conversations wont stand for anything when his contract expires.