First home game of the season and VI is already short of options. Tavares only played for 60 minutes most of the games last season in Portugal ,so why was he left on when his legs had gone? We only seem to want players that can`t compete for 90 minutes +(cause they cost less?). Only good thing today Eustace`s Derby conceding 5. That`s taken the sting away somewhat!!

Suffered there losing Alebiosu.

VI not pulling his punches, didn’t even mention the ref, all our fault he said.

I just fookin well give up with some of our lot...dont seem to know what day it is.

Just seen the pen, Miller left a leg out when he didn't need to. Soft, yes.

No comment from Valerian. He must be one disillusioned individual but then his pay cheque and eventual compensation for the sack will provide solace!

"It's the first game of the season FFS, so negative, just back the lads" They'll be the ones shouting Venkys out when it's January and we're sharing down the barrel.

I applaud your positivity, and wish I could share it . My post is not knee jerk … my knee has been jerking for 15 years . Good luck to those who have hope … there must be some in the same page as Pasha and Gestede … but the numbers decrease with every passing day .

Best players are leaving - they've had enough and seen the light - and we are replacing them with has beens and dross. If you pay peanuts you get monkeys! Simple. Glad I didn't renew. This is just the beginning of the end of this once great Club.

Nail. Hammer. Head.

Difference here was we weren't trying to hang on,we got punished being too gung ho going for the win.

Won't be long before he's saying 'ask my Directors' just as JDT did before him and even the ultra toeing the line Tony did by the end. The press should be demanding these clowns front up and let the coach get on with coaching.

A last ten minutes to forget for Tavares: left a leg dangling for the pen, tired corner, let the cross come in, but he must’ve been out on his feet. We can’t keep going with swapping between Ohashi and Papi, they demand completely different styles of play. If I were VI, I’d go 5 at the back with Miller on the right of the three CBs - a team who create so few chances can’t not have his throw (I’d also narrow the pitch a yard on either side), and have both Papi/Yuki as the front two.

Let’s get the ‘what3words’ app owners to make that the location of Ewood Park.

Wow, that was a kick in the bolloxks. Solid performance, completely nullified Birmingham and never ever looked like losing the game. A day of 7’s across the board and we defended well. Tavares tired in the second half and the tackle for the penalty, though harsh, looked a tired one. The second goal was scandalous. Whoever agreed to put every player in their box with zero defensive cover needs shooting. Overriding - we’re a decent championship side, but we have next to zero in the final third and the subs are even worse. We will be relegation fodder unless we sort it. I’m fuckin wounded I decided to part with £500 to punish myself like this until next May!

Threw it away. We played a better side and credit to Cantwell scored a cracking goal. Penalty was fault of a few but mainly DeNeve. Put your through it lad instead of standing still like an idiot. Instructions were to high press with Toth taking a free kick well in their area. Fool football from our manager but he'll be either sacked or will walk by November. This is an exciting summer!

Well, now even if we're winning going into the final 5 mins teams will believe there's a way back, and we'll be fearful of losing. This is going to be a fucker of a season.

Sad comment. They could beat WBA though.

This is exactly the kind of performance that will gets us relegated.

Jackson has said VI said no comment to all Travis questions - but he apologised for doing so. This has got JDT repeat all over it.

Take him out properly and the game stops, do a soft clip and the ref waves play on

All these people who are talking about how well we played, did we watch the same match? We've had 3 shots on target in 2 matches. We weren't playing PSG or Liverpool. I have no idea whether it was a pen or not as didn't get good view from BBE. Sadly it has cost us and also sadly it is giving people an excuse to say we were hard done by. I thought Birmingham were dreadful, completely different to how they played against Ipswich, no intensity and created very little. Yet we managed two shots against them in 100 minutes. They were rubbish today and so were we.

We're in bother aren't we? Everything points to it, bad luck, questionable referee decisions, further reduction in investment, dwindling crowds and shithouses running the show. Need to pop a cork in it on the pitch with something from the Hull game or this will unravel very very quickly.

He committed enough of a foul, the ref gestured play on. Which means he thought it was a foul but was playing advantage.