But he could not play well, at all four attacking positions, which was the statement.

Ah yes, the usual. Take my words totally out of context and resort to calling me negative in the absence of anything constructive. You repeatedly conclude based on your own warped reading of what I am saying that we should never play him, bin him off and never bring through graduates. Firstly, sort out his contract situation. Not interested in conversations or spiel about pathways and projects. Is he willing to sign a proper contract or not? If he is, then we can accelerate his progression into the first team. If not, then strongly consider a sale because its no good us giving him game time just to inflate any tribunal fee. Assuming he does sign. We dont know especially physically if he is ready to potentially play regular Championship football. As it stands, one injury to Cantwell and he would have to. He regularly struggled to stay fit for the under 21s. It would be putting him under unfair pressure and we dont know if he could cope with it. So sign another player. Still there would be plenty of scope for game time. If we are playing high pressing football, and with modern day sub rules, we will be getting minutes into 7 or 8 attacking players per game. He would be one of potentially 10, very rare they would all be fit. It would also allow us to play him when we feel appropriate rather than out of necessity. He could play cup games, he could be integrated slowly initially but if he really looks the part at senior level, and we dont know, then he can play lots more. So sort his contract, then drip feed him in without undue pressure whenever we feel best, keeping him around the first team all season. Can you please tell me what is so negative about that plan?

As far as Tyjon goes I think it's instructive to think of the 9 and 10 role together. Across the two roles we now have four players - Ohashi, Gueye, Tyjon and Cantwell. I think without blocking Tyjon we need at an absolute minimum one more in there. Ideally someone who could play either as a 9 or a 10 as I don't think we can have only four players for two crucial roles, especially when we get into the November to February madness. Even if we count Tyjon as a new first team squad player (and we should) five players in those forward position who have left (Dolan, Weimann, Woodrow, Dennis, ACB) so we are four short. Getting one more back in is the absolute minimum imo. In May last year we had eight players (Ohashi, Gueye, Weiman, Dolan, Dennis, Woodrow, Cantwell, ACB) who played across 9 and 10. I am sure we will sign someone. Maybe two. And that would be no real impediment to Tyjon, he will get plenty of game time.

That thought must keep the Chicken Chokers awake at night.

He’ll move when he feels like it. The player holds all the cards in situations like this.

... and if we get promoted?

Just not very well.

Then for me, he should play if he's contributing.

Hence we put some sort of clause in that if he gets a certain amount of minutes he plays here. If not then yes move him on

I think Tyjon leaves next summer whether he plays 4 minutes or 4000 minutes to be honest.

I would buy it if it were working!

The tyjon dilemma I think most posters are right in their views I do think ideally another 10 would be better so he isn’t flogged but I also do think the only way of knowing if he’s as good as we/other clubs think he is we should be using him. As mentioned before Sunderland used 3 teenagers last year with great effect Now it’s not proven that works all the time but to incentivise him staying make him sign a pro deal give him minutes and let’s see if the hype is real

That is the same for all talent in all championship clubs though not just rovers

Sadly, as a club I think we have regressed so badly there isn't much credibility about. Any real talent isn't going to hang about long irrespective of what Ismael says - they can virtually set themselves up for life with just one 'big' move. To have a chance of retaining top young talent for any length of time, we need to be playing in the PL and as a bare minimum holding our own. Sadly, those days may well have now gone for good such is the state of our club.

Yes I read that but he still hasn't signed a pro deal. Just saying he should be given an ultimatum to sign or we basically develop him for someone else.

Who in my opinion is deeply average.

You focus on the negative side and what happens if not ready and whether we know every single time, But Ismael and the staff will know and we have a talent on our hands, we should be develop Igor Tyjon. By him having a pathway and Ismael siting down with Tyjon and his parents to show them how Ismael wants to use him and develop him is a way of keeping here long term contract No one has said every young player is going to be like Wharton but when you have talent like Tyjon you need to bring him through just like we did with Wharton, Raya and Buckley. Its a good job we didn't your opinion and stance on bringing Wharton or Raya otherwise they might not be quality Premier League players.

Here in Malta I am out for my morning walk by 6.30am and go for the evening walk at 7.30pm or later. Heat won't be so intense at 7pm CEST but will still be a shirt soaker for our players. In contrast, the Qatar players will be in their thermals as it is mid 40s and upwards there this time of the year.

That’s right. How many first team games will he get at Arsenal do you think ? He’ll be loaned out to somebody either at our level or below.

I walked into that one didn't I, doh!

Nah I'm sorry that's not good enough. The club have to start acting in a way that either protects assets or maximises the output of the squad. If he's ready to start contributing but hasn't signed a contract I have no interest in developing him this year for him to walk to Arsenal at the end of it. If these talks have been held then he'll know what is on the table. Sign and play, otherwise he should be used as and when required and no more.

It's a great debate to have. Not sure it would help though even if legal. I understand (adjunctive therapies defo NOT my expertise) that some emerging research suggests that certain peptides, particularly growth hormone (like BPC157 or TB500, again, so I'm told), MAY play a role in accelerating tissue repair and reducing inflammation. It's certainly not NHS approved! :-) and they're not part of standard UK medical practice and best considered 'experimental or off-label'. Anyway as you say they're banned in competitive sports and probably carry longer term risks for the player. He's got what he's got and my guess is it's something that won't go away, so one for us to avoid. But, what do I know, play and pay may be worth a punt to lessen our risk, could be a Hail Mary that pays off.

We beat Barcelona 3-2 in Reus with a Shearer hattrick. So is this the Qatar WC squad we are playing? https://www.rovers.co.uk/matches Gobsmacked- there is a GBP5.99 offer to watch both Qatar and Elche on Rovers TV!

I have to say Usyk has surprised me as I knew he was good but there were signs a few years ago he might not be one of the greats. Bellew was ahead on points when Usyk stoped him, and then Chisora gave him a very tough fight when he stepped up. I felt like a good big one would just be too good for him, but that's not the way it has played out. Parker has improved and has earned the shot. Had Dubois not got injured in this clash with Parker, then the New Zealander may well have been fighting for the unified belts last Saturday. Not that I think he'd win, but it should be the next port of call for Usyk. After that, he's beat all of this generation and probably should stop.