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Fuck Mowbray, he's history.

No.

Ta, get you all technical.

Unless he was carrying an injury it was pretty weird. If I'm a United fan I'd be equally concerned that our new £74m striker couldn't score or even look especially useful against a team from League Two, mind.

I've heard bits that have originated from her previously (indirectly, I've never spoke to her in my life). Definitely nothing to do with that BRFC privy account no.

Im aware, I was trying to get to the bottom of whether JBiz doesn't approve of the Benefactor model per se, or simply with ones he doesn't like.

Are we? I thought they had taken out loans and various financial instruments - this figure (who knows how accurate) is not owed by the club.

Administration tomorrow would suit me!

After some thought, I do see now what you are saying. And agreed that all efforts should be on finding new owners. Some would argue that the removal of Pasha could move this along. But I don’t see your solutions working –ie. washing our face, success with minimal funding in this division thus making us more attractive to potential buyers. -The Raos/Pasha would just be delighted that things can run along with no input. -There would still be the impediment that thus far, the Raos have rejected all offers out of hand. -There would still be the impediment that they want to recover their loss The other ways would appear to be: -Promotion, lots of cash and an exit -Adverse publicity in India or anything that makes their lives uncomfortable -Relegation, administration -Some method of the supposed 200m being written off

Well hopefully - what would you say we're more attractive to an investor as £50m as things stand now or £300m if we were promoted? And which figure would the V's be more likely to sell at? I'd say the latter in both cases.

Wouldn’t that put our price up by 300m though - I mean Club value.

Prospective owners will have their idea of the value of the Club dependent on which Division we are in and the owners would presumably have to decide whether to take a hit on any sale and write the remainder of the debt off. The only question is how much. The only way I see it being a realistic proposition is if we were ever promoted.

Doesn't look like he is wanted even in Saudi Arabia...

I wasn’t ever concerned with the “ambition and expertise” from the top, where our previous owners concerned. I also didn’t want the previous owners to sell. I was happy with the trust too. I’m no financial expert, but the way I see it, the more owed to the owners, the more difficult it is for prospective buyers. We can point to philanthropy and suggest that money is invested badly / lost - but we aren’t the ones who have to agree to sell the club. The Rao’s are, and they absent, stubborn, uninterested, and they hire cheap yes men.

Jack had already converted the debt to equity before he passed away.

It's what he said in the LT years ago.

Just out of curiosity - did you feel uncomfortable with the Club technically being £130 m in debt to Jack Walker before his death as well? I know the 2 situations aren't comparable in terms of the quality of ownership but it seems to me there are or were no realistic expectation the respective sums would ever be repaid so as such the fact we owe them money doesn't really concern me.

Who said that they had got excited? And knocking back money is not what he said.

Yeah, but no, but yeah. 😉 (But that's how life is, complicated and good post.)

So we think the case was heard today but we all missed it?

We’re back at the “care and expertise” part of the story. If they spent a lot to get out of this league, they’d have to start with a CEO! Can you imagine Pasha being in control of a “war chest”?! You’re correct that money will get piled on with us at 120% wage to turnover ratio, but that’s our current wage bill, which is also not competitive enough…! Its just fucked. One of the reasons it’s good for your health to try and separate “Rovers” aka the team, and the ownership debacle. It’s not easy.

As I mentioned in a separate post, it's effectively philanthropy, they won't get that money back, it's gone. It bothers me, sure, but they will never see it again.

I was wondering same. Seems a bit of a stretch to out her as a transfer "mole" just because she showed support for Travis on social media in the absence of anything specific.

If you put your finger where the like button used to be you can still react to stuff I've now found!

I don’t know, that’s why I asked. From my memory, whenever anyone at the club has been asked the answer has been “we’re not for sale”. This is probably the wrong thread for this, but that’s partly why I’d focus all efforts, protests, actions etc towards finding new owners. Aka, if you get can’t get any cooperation from the Rao’s, maybe someone with a lot of money, influence etc might have more luck.