Ipswich didnt really see him play though, no slight on him, it seemingly was an opportunistic temporary deal to bolster the squad but Morsy and Luongo at the time were outstanding. Plus they are about to sign their second midfielder of the summer for £10m. They are fishing above that.

Fickle? You're not kidding, he's gone from captain of the rubber dinghy men to irreplaceable.

None of that warrants hatred, 4 years on, especially when much of those things are speculation on your part. McGinn went to Villa the summer we wanted him. I think you are confusing that with Reed who he played wide. Perhaps the wrong decision, but something that should warrant frustration at the time, no more. My recommendation would be not to watch that podcast, purely for your own health.

I wonder why? At the time there were rumours that there was a midfielder lined up to join us, but he was discouraged because Mowbray said he'd have to wait in line behind Evans and Smallwood and learn how they played etc. There were also rumours that that midfielders name was John Mcginn. How ridiculous does that sound now? But that's how ridiculous things were under Mowbray, ditto him giving Ben Gladwin a new deal purely so he could recuperate from injury, ditto him stockpiling players to the extent he had 14 midfielders to choose from at one point. You could go on and on.

It’s interesting that even after Morsy left in the summer Ipswich didn’t make a move for Travis. You would have thought he may have been on their radar if he was rated during the loan spell there.

I dont even understand why you even would put yourself through it such is your irrational hatred of him.

Has he done anything to warrant that name beyond taking a job at your beloved United?

His quote in the LT at the time was that he had to "calm the owners down". I havent had time to watch this latest podcast yet but at the time he gave the impression he actively discouraged them from investing further.

The word Legend is thrown around far too easily for sub par players these days. He did a job but wasn't exactly anything special. Might miss his leadership / shit housing but if its true that he refused to play/train then there is no coming back from that. We'll never know the full details of what goes on behind the scenes. Players come and go which is why one should never get attached to them. End of the day we are Rovers supporters (but these owners make it bloody hard to be). The era of players bleeding for a single club are long gone with the money that is involved these days. Here's hoping the new signings do a job.

Just a bit, last Friday it was all doom and gloom. Rudy and Suhail were the devils' incarnate. One really good win and one promising looking signing on the right wing later and all of a sudden Travis was always crap and this new strategy might actually be the way to go etc. etc. And the plastic snake manufacturers will no doubt have a beano in November. I mean, we dont even know if Travis's replacement, Baradji, is fit , or out for a lengthy period and if the latter, how long for. The fickleness of the football fan. It works both ways.

Whorecox hasn't been fired yet.

I agree with this wholeheartedly but I don’t think there’s any point in supporting Rovers anymore if all thoughts related to the club cannot be separated to the depressing ownership scenario. I don’t need a daily reminder for how bad they’ve been either.

It sums up our club that our own COO has no idea whether a long standing member of staff still works here. Amateur is being generous.

But my initial point was to dismiss the idea that we have discarded Travis (and the other departing players) because he has been left behind in our pursuit for better. We have successfully sorted one proper contract in 2 years. We arent willing to pay competitive Championship wages. Its not as if that £20k is there but we have decided to utilise it elsewhere. We have gone for players that will require much less in wages. We dont have to pretend that he is worse than he is because he has left either.

They are part of the real problem!

He shouldnt need to "press the owners." But they probably wouldnt have given him more money anyway. They havent in any of the Januarys since. Which i am sure you will pin on Mowbray too. It makes absolutely no sense for him not to want promotion. I have no doubt that he gave his absolute utmost to get results with the players he had. He just came up short. The initial theory that you said was that he actively told them that he didnt want more money. Which isnt true. If we fixate on people who pass through, similar to the Travis situation. Our angst goes to the wrong place.

Anybody who refuses to play for Blackburn Rovers goes down a long way in my estimation. “ Legend “ - Who are you trying to kid ? Not me for sure.

Derby were low balling us just like they were doing to sign Max Johnston

Not a single sniff of a transfer rumour today...

WWWD since I’ve lived here. Been in the crowd for ‘em all.

Is it me or do I detect a swing towards RG's and VI's management strategy?

We are never ever going to win enough with the present owners, are we! Theres no ambition! The club, for the last 15 nearly 16 years is set up to FAIL.

Just when you think United can't get any more hilarious...

He replaced Karl Hodges who went to Derby

This is what gets me. Most of the players they have are talented and have shown they can do it at other clubs. Granted theres a few plodders but even excluding the new £200 million strike force, last season they had some good players. Everyone just seems to get worse there. Shows how rotten the club is. It's a shame...