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He’s not really in a much different position to when he was here though, half decent, steady championship type.

Yeah I definitely need some time away from this board. Writing players off after 4 games. Unbelievable.

Noted Ben Chrisene's name on Norwich's team sheet. Another loanee who did little to nothing and goes on to be decent (although, not sure how far he'll go). It seems odd that quite a few loanees come to Rovers and barely make a mark only turn into decent players, be it Ayari, Branthwaite, Morton (who, it's true, played a fair few games and I just saw is playing for Lyon). Part of it will, admittedly, be the nature of short-term loans. It's hard for any player, even the most talented, to have an impact in a short period. Yet, part of it must also be some disconnect in the transfer policy. [Eg. did Eustace really want Ayari and Chrisene (and Koumetio)?] and also, in cases, just poor management.

Transition will soon become relegation, it will be interesting to see what Suhail and RG spin on this window! Give them time etc etc We are not all gullible and naive! Venkys Out that is all that matters!

Sheffield united played like a different team from the one what dominated last season. Brittain doing well for boro, quality going forward with decent crosses.

It's way too late now VI starting to realize majority of the signings are duds, way way below Championship standard. Window gonna slam shut, we gonna get stucked with this lot of development players to steer us out of trouble. Watching Rovers gives me severe depression.

They're going to have to cycle through a team every 2 years, yes.

Well we've had Telovic, now Gueye so maybe 3rd time lucky.

Can fully understand the new signings need time to gel, but even if we can finish this season staying up, in one or two seasons later, the new lads (assuming they are good enough) get used to this league, the same low-ball contracts offers will appear again. We will lose these "contract rebels" and replace them with cheaper new ones. The same shit will repeats itself, and the team will forever be in transition. This low wage budget, low cost foreign signings at all cost is no way to run a proper Championship club. The last time Venkys did this, we got relegated from the premier league almost instantly. Low balling contracts to key players causing them to reject contracts and ended up sold or leaving on a free destroy the stability & cohesion within the team. Players come and go, yes, but you simply cant lose that amount of key players within such a short time. It's going to create one hell of a disaster

Hes been brought in to go along with it, nod at everything they do and play the hand they give him without complaining. That is why he is here that's why he was selected from the jobless pile by whoever controls things at Ewood. At best he is a bang average journeyman coach who comes across every since he set foot in the place as someone who is just going through the motions. Stick is a huge part of the job and he knows this so he'll have to lump it, seven days ago he was praised, today deserves some questions.

He is only 23 tbf and has already played in the conference league. We have plenty of time to develop him so id take that any day tbh

Our marquee signing had 2X less the goals than Gueye had in the Belgium league and in a better team. Concerning….

Fact they’ve spun it that Trav wanted to leave. They should have knew when he came back from Ipswich to sort a deal out as he wanted to stay but I’m sure this was intentional to get him off the wage bill

That's why my remark was a question and not a judgement. It's quite right to have those questions when we've lost four of our first five games, including to lower league opposition.

I agree but the patience of fans has been severely tested for much longer than VI's reign so you can't blame anyone for being pissed off. Only recently we've gone from a journey to a project and now we're in a transition.

Gudjohnsen could be the marquee signing. That means there's a fine chance it'll fall through....

I’m going to keep the cantwell train going here. I thought he was the standout player today. Worked his nuts off with out the ball and seemed to be everywhere in my opinion. Proper skippers performance. Gets a lot of plaudits with the ball for his technical play, but without it he didn’t shy away with not putting a shift in. Keep it up skip

Pretty basics options I guess but fine. surprisingly the blues bar was rammed in the end tbf

Poor attendance, fans voting with their feet. This season has disaster written all over it.

Joking aren't you?' Had months if not years to sort out a b new contract for Travis. Wanted him off the list to save money and for him to get the blame.

I'm talking about Ismael and what has gone on in this window. It's the biggest upheaval in a squad and he can't be blamed for it.

Gueye had a 50/50 battle with Ohashi last season. Neither were outstanding, but Gueye has had his chances and ultimately showed poor finishing in front of goal. I don't think Ismael fancies him, so we may as well twist.

They've had four league games and the window isn't shut. If supporters aren't even going to give them more than that, then that's wholly unfair. We were rubbish in the first half, but the better team in the second half. A silly mistake cost us, and not for the first time. This head coach hasn't even had a full transfer window and a bit of time to settle thereafter. But it seems like many won't even give him that. That's clearly down to an underlying hatred of the owners, but it doesn't deserve to be laid at this head coach's door, nor the cruel judgment so far being passed on the players.

Plenty of positives and frustrations from today's game... a major frustration being I've wanted them to sign a strong athletic centre back all summer but we ended up with McLoughlin and the reality is Modibo Sagnan who we started the summer off "in advance talks with" according to Jackson.... and Steve Kapuadi probably wouldn't have been beaten for pace as easily but we wouldn't pay the money needed. You need more ambition at this level. Buy cheap, buy twice. Suspect that might be the case with many of our cheap signings that aren't quite good enough... Gueye and Ohashi from last seasons business are probably prime examples. We're still in the market for strikers. Those smaller fees add up, just pay the money needed for the right quality Suhail.

I don't think we have to worry about effort from the squad - the majority of them will put in a shift. The question mark is over their quality and their ability to gel as a team, particularly when you have so many different nationalities not just coming into the team as new players, but coming into English football in general as new players. It's a lot to ask in the short-term for them to all be on the same wavelength. When the core on-pitch leadership of the squad is pushed out, you lose that central point which new signings can anchor themselves to as they adapt to being part of a team.