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What motivation is there for a young player to improve if better/more experienced players are just moved aside to keep their ‘pathways’ clear?

Noting transformational that's for certain. Midfield is desperately poor and will be even worse if anything happens to Tronstad .

We were in many games when we got relegated in 1999. But small margins cost us. We didn’t lose any of the first four games by more than a goal then. It’s rare a team gets relegated that aren’t “in” games unless they are really, really shit. It’s fine margins This season it is individual moments of a lack of quality costing us. Not clearing that long throw at West Brom. De Neve getting skinned and then Tavares delivering a crap corner against Brum. McLaughlin and Kargbo today. I know you’re incredibly blinkered on refs, but the only real one against us I feel is the penalty at West Brom. Everything other major decision I’ve agreed with.

Of course they will. Could you tell us how long that is?

And conceded 3 goals at home, in 90 + injury time.

Plenty of rubbish emerges after a win. Plenty of rubbish emerges (LET comments and elsewhere) after a new plan emerges. As for patience -hmm, is 15 years enough?

At the moment I'll reserve judgement on most of them, but I'm not optimistic either. My concern is more that, even if some of them improve and the team gels into a more cohesive unit, we may still be fighting a losing battle if confidence is low and we've lost a lot of matches by the time that happens. We cannot afford to keep losing games whilst waiting for the team to gel. They have to start picking up results, and if they're incapable of doing so whilst adjusting, then we're going to be in huge trouble and it will have been a mistake from Suhail and Gestede to initiate such a destructive transition.

Assuming Gudjohnsen is a done deal (and if he was there today he'll fancy his chances of starting against Watford!!!) I still think we need another winger, a CM and a GK. We're not signing a GK by the looks of it - Ismael's answer on BBC Lancashire about the pathways / young kids didn't even reference Pears. He must be on his way out and they apparently don't plan to replace him, which is worrying.

He would fit in well then 😞

Played 4 league games conceded a penalty in 50% of them

How have we played in those 5 games? We've been in every single one and, barring some awful officiating, should be sat here with far more points. The worry is that this is our year - we're playing ok and losing, which means we're going down - but I have to think that we'll stop being on the butt end of things and start picking up results. I don't look at the squad we've assembled and think it's miles off the standard.

Still handed the #1 squad number which surely would have gone to Toth if Pears was off.

He's a confidence player that needs time on the pitch. Relegating him to 5 minutes here, 10 minutes there is doing him absolutely no favours.

Well he missed a sitter today and shied away from 3 other chances any striker worth his salt is at least taking on...

So glad it’s international break, let’s hope the new lads who haven’t played yet are up to scratch

He's not started many games so unfair to judge IMO. Top Scorer in the league year before and already got 9 international goals - He's only 22! We can all wager he'll be on par with Ohashi and 10 times the striker Gueye is so it really shouldn't fill you with fear.

this windows been absolutely abysmal and they’ve definitely inflated the fees, nothing more than a cost cutting transfer window.

I wish they'd apply all of the laws of the game so thoroughly...

My point is he’s not scoring goals in a team that scores a lot where he’s had a good amount of minutes. So his conversion rate looks suspect

Ismaels win record so far is 29.4% and his points per game is 1.06. For comparisons sake, Owen Coyle had equivalent stats of 29.73% and 1.11.

Come on Chaddy, it is 4 losses in 5 and half of the players he mentioned were here last year. How long do we give them before judging them?

Yup Transition has just replaced the project which replaced the journey which followed on from a 'reset' after a deep audit. The one and only description is Managed Decline which has ebbed and flowed between overnight to death by a thousand cuts over the last 15 years.

Whilst I’m on a rant and rapid fire posting session, one thing that particularly pissed me off about Kargbo today was his total lack of commitment physically. There was an instance in the first half when he had the run on the covering centre half, both sprinting to a through ball. He saw the centre half coming and shit the bed, let him have it. His one asset is his speed, which he rendered useless by being soft as shite

Back on your little band wagon after a lost. You seem to have all these great wonderful opinions based on a defeat. We win, we going for promotion Let's judge them after a period of time. FFS, already explained my view plus used what is in FF minutes and Glen/Kidder podcast whilst discussing the playing budget. Not interested in what you have to say.

He may do. He may not. Either way, its total lunacy to have a season with one senior keeper. Do you agree? Michalski played 1 cup game and clearly is nowhere near ready yet. Whilst contracted at the club, Pears should be number 2.