Nothing can be made official prior to July 1st unless Rovers agree. Derby not announcing anything is proof of the square root of fuck all.

Don’t think so. He can just sign a pre-contract agreement at Rovers. Nothing Plymouth could do about it.

So if Derby are offering a 2 years contract to Batth he can accept the offer and announce the deal and joined them on 1st July. Yet no deal has been announce by Derby and we dont even know if Derby have ever offer a 2 years contract. Which was my main point all day 👍

If it works like it does in FM (I know...), once a player is within the final 6 months of his contract, he's free to discuss terms on a pre-agreement. The owning club doesn't have a say in this, at that stage. Once a deal is agreed, the transfer takes place upon expiry of the contract. The onus for the owning club is to tie a contract up before you get to the final 6 months.

Additionally, how many times have we fallen foul of the 'weaker' sides? Like Iceland, under Woy. In any case, we beat Germany in a knockout phase in the last couple of tournaments - and, without checking, I'm sure we've beaten some Croatia-level sides also. You don't get to choose who you play; the trick is beating them and progressing.

They’d still have had to okay him signing the Rovers’ deal early and he still didn’t officially join until 1st July.

Not this again. Getting put on the ‘easy’ side of the draw pre kicking a ball is luck/fortune/chance, whatever you want to call it, as you have absolutely no input into it via performance on the pitch, it’s pre-determined. That wasn’t England/Southgate’s problem by the way, as you can only beat (or not) what’s put in front of you, no guarantees, but probabilities wise, it helps.

Plymouth wanted to keep Ennis. He rejected a contract offer to sign for Rovers. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65730082 You can sign a pre-contract agreement earlier, but the registration doesn’t officially change until the end of the current contract.

Nope, all three of those signed/will sign on 1st July. (After contracts expired/will expire) https://www.rovers.co.uk/news/2023/june/15/sondre-signs-/ ‘He will officially become a Blackburn Rovers player – along with fellow summer signing Niall Ennis – on July 1st’ https://www.swanseacity.com/news/cameron-burgess-seals-swansea-city-move ‘The 29-year-old defender will become a Swansea player on July 1, having agreed a three-year contract, with the club having faced considerable competition in securing his services’ The fact deals were sorted and announced earlier would have been because their current club gave permission. As we want to keep Batth that won’t be happening with him.

Yes they can't. How did we sign Ennis and Tronstad to contracts before their contracts ended at the previous? How has Burgess signed for Swansea when his contracts ends hasn't end at Ipswich.

If he aspires to be head of football and/or CEO, though, then he's all good.

My wife says a semi is never enough.

Imagine Wharton pinging balls through a year older. But it wouldn’t have happened as the club wanted to sell him, just as they wanted to sell Szmodics. Therefore I’d have said it to whoever objected and said to me whatever Bohinen1983 said. Let’s not pretend we were hopeful he would stay. As a club you can’t try and flog a player and then moan if he doesn’t want to get injured in pre-season to ensure said move happen. Another quote from Szmodics “Blackburn wanted to sell me for as much as possible.”

Yes it is, is this a 2 page argument or the full 4 pages?

It'll obviously never come to that - this is change found between the cushions of the sofa for them - but again it does beg the question with all of this going on why are they hanging onto a very public PR disaster? Surely they'd sell and batten down the hatches?

They clearly KNOW they're going to lose the case, which is why they're so reluctant to put any money into the bond with the government.

“I was still training, sometimes with the team and sometimes on my own, but I was going in and being professional.”

You'd have said that to who? The manager clearly wanted to keep him. Imagine 20 goals from the #10 instead of whatever Cantwell / Weimann contributed - we'd have been comfortably in the playoffs.

I'm not missing the point, I'm arguing the point. You get your wall chart and the route to the final Is mapped out. The fixtures are then determined by results, nothing whatsoever to do with luck. If you get an "easy " game or a hard one, it's as a result of how each team performed. Luck would be drawing an "easy" game out of a bag every round.

He was going though wasn't he? It's principle, he can train with the squad until he leaves..

I think if anything they've had it so easy over here for years because we're powerless to rid ourselves of them. They're arrogant billionaires who never fall foul of the EFL or HMRC - they always put in just enough money to satisfy the two bodies that could force them to sell the club. They're despised by the vast majority of the fan base, but it's irrelevant to them as they simply never attend.

No they can’t.

Exactly. He is more obsess with luck of the draw and completely ignore the actual results. He is belittling Southgate's and the players achievements and they producing results that meant we got so far in tournaments. Wonder how far Tuchel will get

No. But you seem to be missing my point that there is a difference between results that we control and ones that we dont. France's results in a seperate game helping to give us a favourable draw is luck on our behalf.

And then I'd have said "Fuck it then I'll stay and you can get Venkys to send the £11 million over you need, and also stick another £11 million in their matched bond. Don't forget you want me gone just like you wanted Adam gone earlier in the season - to actually fund the club. The fact is you are hanging on for a bit extra money but there's no chance you are going to keep me. And I actually do want to go to the Premier League but if I get injured in pre season it fucks me up. But as you are being a set of nobheads, I'll stick around and watch you sell everything you can to raise funds elsewhere. Without that £11 million you will be that skint you will probably end up doing something really drastic and embarrassing to save funds - like making the entire women's team redundant."