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Totally agree. Kargo is garbage. Has no footballing ability, lazy and weak.

Worst home start for decades... yes we will lose against Ipswich.

Probably never.

Definitely looked to be around that figure. You can work it out if because we know how many seats each end holds and you can tell the stands are about a quarter full. Part of the slow death.

Were you playing in the band on the Titanic as it went down?

Yeah seems he got shit when we binned Gueye. He's best mate. Now both wants out for sure.

Is that 5 consecutive hone defeats including Bradford? When did we last have a start as bad as that?

Some folk will be trotting out the same lines next season in league one. They cannot be saved.

Yep he’s going down before there is any contact then he catches him, usually given though

We played well in patches through the game. But if you concede cheap goals and struggle to convert it's a recipe for disaster. A few other points As much as we never recover in a game when we go behind we rarely manage to lose when we go ahead in recent seasons. But today is the second time we have managed to lose after leading already this season. While Ismael seems to have us well organised in our initial shape (though we look sloppy defending set pieces) whenever we try and do anything different - add subs, chase a game etc - we look really disjointed and fall apart. We really look like we don't have leaders when we are up against it, which is not surprising when we sold Hyam, Baath and Travis all in one fell swoop We haven't even started to get into the mad rush of games through the winter yet and already we look really dependent on a few key players who are already starting to look knackered. What happens if Tronstad, Alebiousu, Cantwell go down injured? I thought Morishita was quite good when he first arrived, but he's really struggled last couple of games, and Kargbo has been absolutely diabolical. The main ray of sunshine is Alebiousu who is fantastic. Gudjohnsen looks willing but not sure he is really going to add many goals. We have to not concede like we did today. Should have got a draw minimum, but lost to two really really sloppy easy goals which Ismael whole brand is about not conceding from.

Just seen the replay of their second goal. Kargbo, with his only real asset being pace, just slowly jogging watching the Swansea player break away! AK47 turned into a spud gun. Absolute shite.

Cantwell and Alebiosu the only ones along with Toth who seems to have Championship class. Trondstad seems well off this year.

This is our near full strength team. Wait until the injuries and suspensions kick in.

Stinking performance overall, stinking result. We did create some chances today, but creating odd chances at home against midtable fodder isn't something to celebrate. The fact that Alebiosu looks like our best player tells you everything. I thought it was a penalty, obviously haven't seen it back, but if we had got it, it would have been a massive get out of jail because we are awful. Kargbo and Gudjohnsen were so bad it was like we were playing with 9. Unfortunately the non-penalty will dominate the headlines and give Ismael his excuse for another torrid performance. When did we last start a season as badly as this at home?

Nothing whatsoever to do with luck, we're a shite team with a worse manager. Thought Alebiosu was excellent and Cantwell played reasonably well. Hickman was ok first half. The rest of them might as well not have bothered. Everyone raves about Tronstad yet every time we're live on TV he's dreadful. Predictably we're missing Travis badly. Gudjohnsen Miller and Kargbo looked Sunday League standard. Can't see any way out of this there's next to zero quality in the squad and the head coach is even worse.

Screw the LET ban and the niceties. Jackson should give the team and the club a rollicking in his match analysis (assume he’s doing one). If the club doesn’t like it, tough. Home truths need to be said

Were shit but even JE at Derby seems to be fuming and could be axed if results dont change.

Stoke will hammer us.

You can't defend like we do and say we don't deserve defeat.

A tiny purple patch at the end of last season doesn’t change anything, this guy was a dreadful appointment, one of the worst managers we’ve ever had and we’ve had some whoppers.

The good news is we'll be top of the deserved points table at the end of the year.

Personally, I think the squad is league 2 if you take Cantwell out. We are so bereft of talent it is not true!

Like lambs to the slaughter

Late Brum equaliser keeps us out of the relegation zone for now.