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Does feel like we are done for the window which is a worry.

Will post in here as most relevant. Derby have started the season even worse than us but they seem to have done some good business and I feel like with the manager they have, once the new players bed in they will soon move up the table. Eustace has obviously had a big say and I find this modern day suggestion that a manager/head coach having a big influence on recruitment is archaic, to be totally ridiculous. He is working with these players. He has been backed and unlike last summer when we needed forwards and he was given the average Ohashi and the awful Gueye. He has been backed with a big money USA striker, dunno what hes like, but also proven Championship quality in Morris and Brereton. You also throw into the mix good quality in like Travis and Johnston, and then a few others to add good quality to the squad around that, a mixture of longer term without prioritising the most important season which is the current one, they look much stronger than last season. Justifies his decision to leave even more. I also find the idea that our window has been about finding superior models as if we have chosen to lose who we have lost to be totally untrue and I would prefer their window.

Why would they? They’ll love this, whole game throwing abuse at a man who did fairly good things here who left because he didn’t believe in the direction of the club while them 2 sit in the stands laughing their heads off

I’ve seen nothing from Tavares. Strolls around like a player who thinks he has it all yet cost us the game against Birmingham, was diabolical yesterday (I’d have taken him off regardless of how many men we had). Was okay against Hull when most others excelled around him. His best performance was a 6/10 against Bradford…it’s a fairly moot point anyways, him and Forshaw are both shite.

2 of the direct competition for the wide positions are Kargbo who doesnt appear to be good enough, and De Neve who has looked well off it and already doesnt seem to be fancied by Ismael. We need another winger because quality wise we dont have enough. But theyll see 4 players who can play there and not bother.

I agree , Suhail and RG should be the targets ! Every game , we play !

After Christmas he'll have 2.5 years left on his contract. The figures I read are that it's about £500k per year. It's not a colossal amount to pay up, and I think they are often less than that with mutual consents, aren't they? Well, we're not at that stage just yet. I'm an optimist, and we'll get better.

It will, but many of our fans will target the wrong person/people.

It could be a very toxic atmosphere , doubt the owners are looking forward to the fixture , I wonder if Suhail & RG will go AWOL on that day ? Is the game on SKY ?

I live in yorkshire now and the lad delivering our tesco shop friday night spotted my lad was wearing rovers shorts He was a donny fan and was raving about him saying how good he is

That's pretty fair. Unfortunately though, as Mark says, I dont know how we'll be able to afford to sack him if he continues to bomb. Edit: Even if we wanted to.

Man City got what they deserved, they thought it was won but Brighton subs changed the game. Surprised by the Forest West Ham score. Pleased for Potter. supposedly Summerville changed the game there

The derby obsession stuff is extremely strange. They don’t care about us but because they took our manager and Eustace wanted to sign players who did well for him it’s a massive rival now. Tinpot and makes us look an odd bunch. I would prefer the spotlight to be on the owners + Suhail.

I agree this Derby comparison stuff is irrelevant we’re both crap

Hedges has played well in the last couple of games but the cynic in me says that it's no coincidence after reports of us looking for competition on the right hand side emerged. His position is under threat, but unless we do something in the next 24 hours, he might be sitting comfortably in the starting line-up which is never healthy.

Emil Riis and Windass both available for free should have tried for them imo. Riis not doing too bad at Bristol city

With every signing derby make I dread the 150th anniversary game even more. My word.

He will be here as long as he wants to be unfortunately. Results dont matter.

I'll give Ismael a month or so after the international break to steady things. I don't think it's unfair to say he's had a toxic situation to deal with this summer. However, as football goes, he won't be afforded too much longer than that.

Montgomery fair enough to a degree, still young and barely seen him in the position though. But Tavares looks better than Forshaw to me.

They've signed him

Another Gladwin ?

They were dead rubbers for our opponents couldn't ask for 2 better teams to play . Out of nowhere we won a few games at the end of the season , a strange set off results gave us a chance on the last day.

I agree. I still think we're short up front.

Carter like Buckley seems to have absolutely fallen off a cliff after being given a long term deal by Broughton. Whilst both seem to have backfired, it's about the only thing Id give Broughton any credit for, it seemed a good idea to tie both down at the time.