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He will get games - remember Adam didn’t play for the most of the first part of the season - the coaches won’t just play tyjon for the sake of it but the clubs plan is to sell our youth and to do that they need some games so he will just give it time

Has anyone done a welfare check on Chaddy?

Just got in and read some of the stuff above concerning ownership, Mr "Pasha" the "advisor" and Venkys lack of interest. Is the speculation that he is part owner backed by the Venkys. Would explain a lot. Just asking, I'veno idea.

Did you listen right to the end?

The 'What Now?' Show - It Can't Go On Like This Sadly, I think it can and will.

JBiz Thinking a little more about our ‘debate.’ We both agree on SWAG. We both agree Pasha is the main spring of problems (as well as an agency). We disagree on RG. You suggest (I think) that RG doing his best and needs time –it’s down to Pasha. I think I have seen enough (even before he arrived) to have made my criticism I did above. And it is because, (amongst all the other negative stuff people have posted) I think that the relationship between RG and Pasha is not just one way (ie Pasha as the autocrat and RG/SWAG as the enforcer just carrying out orders). I don’t think you can excuse RG (like SWAG before him) of just being a puppet who does what he is told for 2 reasons: 1 I think he sold the idea/dream of the wage structure to Pasha 2 the element of pettiness and aggression in carrying out the new plan The other difference is that you are not prepared to believe (again, I think) some of the stuff suggested by glen and others as you regard it as tittle tattle. On balance, I am. Edit Perhaps, putting it another way - I'm not too keen on this idea that it's all down to Pasha (and don't think for a minute this argument is excusing him) and everyone else is just doing as they are told, carrying out orders. That could be seen as an excuse to let off people like SWAG (I know you haven't though!) or RG or VI. I guess you'll have your moment though if we end up in the top half - the new putsch or alignment will have been seen to work. 😉

Think you are right about the Raos (although of course it begs the question as to why they don't just send a bit of that our way other than the supposed 10m a year). But the Raos aren't interested are they and are not told everything. Pasha and cronies want to keep the plates spinning to earn those fees.

These Players live on a different Planet from the rest of us...the remuneration is simply out of this World.

Gueye isn’t leaving due to performances it’s simply cost cutting that is it, there’s no replacement lined up.. Gueye is more bad than good but he’s an option and got 12 G/A last season. More awful planning from the club and no replacement, they’ve seen people want him sold and probably thought it was an opportunity to save more money.

That almost sounds like “badly advised” to me…. 😂

It isn't them it's the men in the middle benefiting constantly from their lack of interest and cack handed approach and they don't care. Basically third parties run this club for them by way of shadowman and his mates and every now and then they seem to get carte blanche. Probably Waggot kept a bit of a lid on it but that doesn't mean he himself and his pals didn't benefit also. That's football it's a murky world and when you have a 3 thousand mile or whatever it is void it becomes easy for the right people to sit in it.

Yea sure, I mean if your businesses combined are earning you 500m annually, you definitely need that 10% a month of the probable £1k a week Oldham are paying us for a loanee. Maybe the kindred souls of BRFCS should get rid of the tin foil.

At some point someone has to pay the piper - to the tune of £200m and counting, and the kickbacks from every contract and sale wouldn't pay for a single one of their extravagant parties.

ding ding ding ding ...... finally a kindred soul.. ppl keep asking what do venky's get owning us ......this is thier game ... not thier money running the show while earning kickbacks on every contract and sale... penny pinching billionaires and gang

Resigning Dennis. Didn’t he look “great for this level”

Yep, the games changed. When me and you started watching football, winning the top league was in the sight of lots of clubs. Now it’s stitched up. Possibly 4 or maybe 5 clubs in total have any hope at all of winning it and that’s not going to change in the foreseeable future. Everyone else can try to match these clubs but they’ve no chance. Every other club is just playing second fiddle to the “masters”.

Seconded! And this is what is wrong with the game these days..https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c62l5qz9jwgo Would I sit on my arse for £16.9m a year? Hmmm 🙂

Seconded! And this is what is wrong with the game these days..https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c62l5qz9jwgo

A good forward will time his run to coincide with the ball arriving in the box. Not try to beat an off-side trap, although with Gueye, it doesn't have to be much of a trap.

Yeah, but it’s to do with ceilings or something. Ive got a brill idea. Why don’t we sack Gestede, get rid of Pasha and get a manager who knows the Championship and knows a good player when he sees one. You know, like it used to be.

But they knew what was coming.

Why hasn’t he played then? Doesn’t matter if Gueye is here or not I just think Val doesn’t see him as a viable option problem Val has is as you say the club see him as a prized asset - something has to give sooner rather than later

The club will be playing tyjon because the club will want to sell him as soon as they can get anything for him - youth is the future of the club and that’s not for our benefit unfortunately that’s for the owners

Has he been loaned?

Going back to Hyam my view is that he is a bang average, middle of the road centre back. However in the last 10 years what better centre backs have we had that we have owned? There's a couple that spring to mind but they aren't massively better (and both were pretty experienced). It's not a position we've been blessed in.