Time to ask again. Does anybody seriously think that they are going to be trying to sign players to strengthen the squad? Seriously?

I'm not too fussed about what the club does myself as I don't see this as 150 years of Blackburn Rovers. For me that club ceased to exist in 2010. This is just a 15 years anniversary of venky rovers. Nothing to celebrate at all. @Herbie6590 could you have a 150th shirt in the works, something similar to the 1960s shirts but with a button up collar similar to this? I am asking out of pure selfishness here as I have lost over 10kg and my old one now is too big for me. The Ribero 1960s ones we got last time were the best Rovers shirts I've ever had. I also think it's another way to shame the club as once again the fans can do a much better job than them.

It does, as I said, depend on how good, or not, your recruitment department is. Not paying a fee "should " mean more is available for wages which "should " mean you get better quality. I would imagine there will be an emphasis on foreigners.

Me or you or anyone here could have got England to at least the semis. The teams they came up against were shockingly poor. When they came up against any kind of half decent opposition he was outfoxed and out classed. The quality of football in general has deteriorated beyond belief over the last 15 years and that is no more clearly evident than in the international game. That last Euros was the worst quality competition I have ever seen. Spain won with ease and they weren't particularly impressive. In fairness to Southgate, he got the England team playing as a team for a while rather than a bunch of big ego'd dickheads that were just there to get their face in the paper. That's more a reflection of how poor the England managers have been for the last 30 years though. Thanks to the large amount of television footage that exists and os easily accessible nowadays, you can go back and see what the game used to be like. It's not just us wearing rose tinted glasses, the game was much much better.

They’ll probably appoint a manager, sign a player and Sack said manager before we pay a fee for a player!

Also @M_B you downplay the importance of speed and downplay the importance of paying fees. If you want the best freebies you have to act fast.

Shows how much football has fallen into disrepute that the UEFA Cup is now considered a minor competition. The whole lot needs to be ripped up and started again.

Yep, Spurs had a disastrous season and it wasn't saved by a victory in a minor European tournament where their opponents were as bad as they are.

But not even "many millions." You are more likely to find a better player if you pay a million or two say compared to someone on a free. The 2 options arent freebies and big fees. You look through the majority of those released and its because they are not very good, and the ones who are even half decent in this country will be able to demand an above average wage because so many teams will want them.

We effectively have a Super League without relegation as the promoted teams are increasingly likely to go straight down. This will be even more likely if players get picked off like Jobe Bellingham and James Trafford, before a ball is kicked.

Obviously , if you're paying many millions for players then you can guarantee quality . At the level Rovers and many others are at, you're just as likely, even more likely, to pick up a good player on a free. Josh Murphy is a perfect example, whether the recruitment department is up to it is another matter,I'll wait and see how Gestede does,

Its humiliating and soul-destroying to know that, whatever the promises or the links, in the last hour and minutes of the Transfer Window we'll be scrambling around trying to sign someone, anyone to get the numbers up.

I’ve not spoken on here in a while but if the above image is how Rovers 150th Anniversary is being celebrated then that’s a absolute shambles, the kit is the starting point and should be looking at all the options what shade of blue,does the original badge go on the shirt ,just the red rose ,halves /quarters just seems like no actual real effort has went into it apart from a 150 logo at the back .

Was excited for the 150 kits hopefully this isn’t a final kit choice thank you for sharing Dave

If we dont have the possibility of paying transfer fees then obviously we massively reduce the quality available to us. There isnt a 100% correlation between cost and quality, but the less you have, the harder it becomes. It isnt a vain point of principle, and to be quite honest there is no excuse not to have money available for fees. Its not about putting timescales on things either, but the sooner players are in, the better. Thats why Ismael is so keen. It gets players a full pre season whereby they not only miss a few games having been signed after the season starts, but you have the majority of your team from the start of an important pre season both fitness wise and in terms of the manager getting his tactical ideas across. You can sign quality early in the window if you are run properly, sadly we arent. That being said, if you dont place any importance at all on when deals are done, then fine. At least it wont lead to you saying you want a certain number in by a certain point yet when that doesnt happen, still going around and dismissing other peoples criticisms contrary to that earlier demand. The fact that it is in anyway a "Gestede show" scares me and the vast majority.

I haven't got a link got sent it on WhatsApp. Crap quality as I've screenshot it from a video but that's the logo on the back below the collar

It's the Gestede show now, I'm prepared to see how he does, putting timescales on transfers is a bit silly in my opinion. I'm also not fixated about paying transfer fees,If the recruitment staff can do their job properly.

I liked Southgate, I think it was more based on seeing his transition over the years from player to penalty to England manager. Deep down we all wanted that elusive victory for his full circle but just wasn't meant to be

Link me

Please be joking.

Great effort by that moan utd. Team. I was surprised that Peter Bonneti didn't get more than 10 cap's for England but then again Gordon Banks was Infront of him.

Sorba Thomas signed a 3 year deal with Stoke

The leaked kit I've seen isn't much different from this seasons apart from there's no collar on it and there's a black 150 on the back at the top. Very underwhelming...

They would, hardly are going to slag him off in public. And they may well have liked him as a man, but it didn't stop them finishing 17th. And if you are basing a manager on whether he is the right man, you base it predominately on the bread and butter of a league campaign.

the toilets at the side of the blackburn end were exactly the same,hence you had everyone p*****g against the back wall,coupled with the smell of urine,strange looking tea/coffee,pies that hazarded food poisoning and the threat of getting your head kicked in,it`s no surprise that crowds were bad despite all that ,i found the blackburn end magical,i was devasted when they bulldozed it