Some folk get quite myopic when reading the facts about Blackburn Rovers over these past umpteen years the morons of Pune have held the title deeds to Ewood Park....Other folk just don't pay attention. Some of us are so inured to the drivel that is drip fed from the local press, the dwindling number of ITK and the remaining faithful who just hope the nightmare ends soon, that we take everything with a pinch of salt until there is an actual picture of someone holding the shirt in front of the Senior training facility (although even that has been an unreliable indicator of an actual signing in recent years..). Let the Facts speak for themselves. I'm not anticipating any kind of long list of facts to pore over, to be fair... VENKYS OUT!! CLUB WRECKING MORONS!

Weimann scored/assisted a handful Dolan scored assisted a handful Gueye..... That's now a lot of goals and assists.

‘If the money is reinvested’. You would have thought our fans would have learned by now.

Two weeks since Nixon said a new contract for Hyam was close... Most teams after finishing 7th and close to the playoffs try to build on the squad that did that and push on, so far we have lost Brittain, Dolan , Batth and Beck from our strongest starting 11 last season, our 2nd top scorer in Weimann.I think Tronstad will stay but Hyam and Travis could move on toward the end of the window.So possibly 6 players out from our strongest 11 last season and the 7th Weimann was our 2nd top scorer .

If there's any truth in the Gueye story, then I'd snap your hand off if it's a decent offer. He's a handful and a great character, but he's never going to score more than a handful of goals per season in this league. Not sure I believe the story though.

Gueye, had 12 goal contributions? Absolutely unplayable at points. We need him in the team, he scared the shit out of some defenders with his physicality and hold up play.

Baffled seeing certain people happy to see him go. We know what he offers and we know what he doesn't...Like every player.

Yes I know it's a long season you think I didn't know about how tough of a season is at this season. So instead of Michalski being a 3rd choice you want another keeper? What is wrong with Michalski being 3rd choice? Highly rated and capped for England youth level. Well you aren't going to know unless you give Tyjon a chance? Good enough, old enough. He is highly rated again so give him a chance. Montgomery is going to a good player, plenty of energy and can get box to box which we want We have category 1 academy for a reason to produce first team footballers. Not having Forshaw and Hedges debate again with you. Having another 3 signings gives us a big enough squad. We are 2 deep in every position plus extra keeper, extra centre back, extra 2 centre midfielder and extra striker. That's 27 players in a squad

Exactly, we need a big front lad like that in the squad it's what we've been missing for years. Whether he wants to stay at do that though is another matter.

Just like Herb Brooks said (USA Ice hockey team that beat the USSR and won Gold at the Olympics) "I don't want the best players Gregg, I want the right ones."

I'd say so. 'No fee has been agreed but personal terms are being discussed' 'A 3 tear contract is on the table' etc Er... to talk personal terms to a player under contract a fee must first be agreed and permission granted, nobody goes public with stuff like that unless Rovers have agreed to release him already. So it whiffs of someone trying to drum up interest or it's tapping up.

I know!? Why don't we keep Gueye and buy another Striker? You know what a normal club would do...No offence to Leonard but he needs offloading...New Striker, Yuki and Gueye would be a good variation of strikers...Not at this club though.

Yes...Agents at play again?

It’s not pedantic it’s fact - you don’t like being wrong or called out is your problem. You think everything you say is correct you call me a troll yet you do nothing but degrade chaddy and speak down to other posters particularly rovers99 when they disagree with you - it’s no different than when I respond to you - glass houses and all that it’s a message board I’m in no cliques or whatever on here but if I see something I don’t agree with il call it out for debate or for rubbish I believe it to be Iv called you out twice now and because Iv been right twice I’m a troll. Facts are mercer you have as much a clue as the rest of us but we don’t hold ourselves high up on any pedestal like you do. so if you don’t like being challenged or called out or like tonight proven wrong either block people scroll on past or don’t come on at all.

Well Gueye has a poor goal-scoring record(fewer than Dolan or Weimann last season I think). Decent in the air and hold-up play good. Defensive attributes better than forward ones for me. The idea that VI doesn`t fancy him to start I have no idea about that. Not the worst non-scoring centre-forward that`s rocked up at Ewood. But we would still need another player to finish the moves off if Ohasi was injured. Of course he might improve. Then again he might not.

I was watching something earlier rating clubs away kits and it said 7 teams hadn't even released one yet with a week to go till the new season 😕 not sure if it was 100% accurate, Sheff Weds were one though, maybe they'll just play in 'skins'?

A bit suspicious this Gueye stuff i wonder who is really putting it out there,

No chance in hell we ship Gueye off to UAE

"Even better." Not much to beat.

Ok, my apologies for the confusion but I'm talking about the official squad and not a list someone on here has put together that's completely subjective 😂. Noticed you didn't acknowledge the point on squad quality. As I say, its not just about numbers....it's about having players who are good enough 🙂.

Sell Gueye for peanuts ...no way. We won't find any better.... Hes got a full pre season and will be even better coming season. Hes physical and powerful just what we need.

Its a long season. We repeatedly fall away partly due to a lack of depth. But again, you are just counting them like they are all the same. Forshaw, he shouldnt be starting any games. Carter and Wharton have massive injury concerns which makes us need more cover there. You include Michalski who is 3rd choice keeper, adds to your abitrary number but wont play. Tyjon who has never started a senior football match, we had no idea how many times he can play. Montgomery has but again we dont know fully where he is at in terms of number of games. Hedges isnt good enough to start games. We cant leave ourselves short. But will, I have no doubt.

Surprised Thierry Ambrose isn’t here already, relegated Belgium side, Man City youth product and a winger

I haven't include Buckley or Garrett in my list. and my list including Tyjon, Montgomery and Michalski. That's it so how is alot of unproven youth?