Paul Mellelieu Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 Pot, kettle black. Missed a comma there. Poor do from a QEGS boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RevidgeBlue Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 Missed a comma there. Poor do from a QEGS boy. Ah, now we're getting to the bottom of it - inverted snobbery. (This is starting to get a bit worrying, I'm seemingly being stalked by some complete nut I'm not aware I've ever met who seemingly now knows my personal details and who makes a point of insulting any post I make on any subject Rovers related or not. At least I know what Rover 6 feels like now.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Mellelieu Posted February 20, 2008 Author Share Posted February 20, 2008 Ah, now we're getting to the bottom of it - inverted snobbery. Not really Rev. Just a cheap dig. Mind you, I remember knowing from an early age that the lads playing rugby across the playing fields from us footie plebs at Pleckgate were getting an unfair leg up in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevidgeBlue Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 Not really Rev. Just a cheap dig. Mind you, I remember knowing from an early age that the lads playing rugby across the playing fields from us footie plebs at Pleckgate were getting an unfair leg up in the world. If they were playing rugby, then they probably weren't doing it very well - QEGS was always a football school and rugby was extremely insignificant in comparison. That's unless it's changed in the 25 years since I left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Rover Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 If they were playing rugby, then they probably weren't doing it very well - QEGS was always a football school and rugby was extremely insignificant in comparison. That's unless it's changed in the 25 years since I left. It hasn't, QEGS is still and always has been a football school. The rugby boys are just the outcasts that can't play football. Thank God it isn't a rugby school or there would be no Rovers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Mellelieu Posted February 20, 2008 Author Share Posted February 20, 2008 If they were playing rugby, then they probably weren't doing it very well - QEGS was always a football school and rugby was extremely insignificant in comparison. That's unless it's changed in the 25 years since I left. I left in 1980. The rugby pitches must have been a mirage. In do remember that QEGS wouldn't play any of the local schools, saving themselves for their fee-paying peers outside the town borders. So you must be (half) right. Which I guess proves my point. Sort of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rog of the rovers Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 Wow, I never knew people where so bitter about QEGS?! I left a few years ago and during my time I played football against Witton Park Pleckgate Beardwood Darwen Vale St Bedes St Mary's College Blackburn College Moorland We won the Blackburn with Darwen schools cup twice and came runners up once Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebruce Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 Thank God it isn't a rugby school or there would be no Rovers. Justify. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Mellelieu Posted February 20, 2008 Author Share Posted February 20, 2008 Wow, I never knew people where so bitter about QEGS?! I left a few years ago and during my time I played football against Witton Park Pleckgate Beardwood Darwen Vale St Bedes St Mary's College Blackburn College Moorland We won the Blackburn with Darwen schools cup twice and came runners up once Things must have changed then. Not bitter, just not keen on a system where wealth, rather than ability, means you get into good schools, universities, jobs, and on it goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanks Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 Justify. The founder members of the rovers were in the main ex grammer school pupils. Rovers were the upper/middle class team in the town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Mellelieu Posted February 20, 2008 Author Share Posted February 20, 2008 The founder members of the rovers were in the main ex grammer school pupils. Rovers were the upper/middle class team in the town. Olympic would have been my team. I see it's QEGS 500 years anniversary next year. What a great opportunity to make it a real community school, and get rid of the fees, entrance exams and the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 Olympic would have been my team. I see it's QEGS 500 years anniversary next year. What a great opportunity to make it a real community school, and get rid of the fees, entrance exams and the rest. And thus turn it into every other failing comprehensive. Great plan, well thought out. It's MORE schools with entrance exams we need, not less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Mellelieu Posted February 20, 2008 Author Share Posted February 20, 2008 And thus turn it into every other failing comprehensive. Great plan, well thought out. It's MORE schools with entrance exams we need, not less. Most comprehensives don't "fail", but don't let the facts get in the way of a rather thick slice of prejudice. Just explain to me why, because my Dad was a taxi driver, and my mum a phone operator, that I -and thousands of other working class kids from the area - got a second class education. It stinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CornwallRover Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 Can we keep this on topic please people, as much as we can in here anyway, I suggest making or using a current education thread in ICBINF for the school discussions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 Most comprehensives don't "fail", but don't let the facts get in the way of a rather thick slice of prejudice. Just explain to me why, because my Dad was a taxi driver, and my mum a phone operator, that I -and thousands of other working class kids from the area - got a second class education. It stinks. Don't know much about Quegs, but my dad, whose father was a skilled manual worker and whose mother was a cleaner passed his 11 plus and went to grammar school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Mellelieu Posted February 20, 2008 Author Share Posted February 20, 2008 Don't know much about Quegs, but my dad, whose father was a skilled manual worker and whose mother was a cleaner passed his 11 plus and went to grammar school. Correct, you don't know much about QEGS. It was/is I guess a fee paying school, not part of the state system. We didn't have the 11plus in Blackburn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Mellelieu Posted February 20, 2008 Author Share Posted February 20, 2008 Can we keep this on topic please people, as much as we can in here anyway, I suggest making or using a current education thread in ICBINF for the school discussions. Rev started it with his bad punctuation. Perhaps Nicko could offer him a job placement to get him up to scratch. There, nearly back on topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellamy11 Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 Why didn't you just get in on a scholarship, Paul? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Mellelieu Posted February 20, 2008 Author Share Posted February 20, 2008 Why didn't you just get in on a scholarship, Paul? Dunno. Ask my parents. They'd probably say the same. Irony is that I could have gone to Clitheroe GS, but didn't want to travel, so my parents said OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellamy11 Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 If you wanted to go then at that time there were scholarships and assisted places (to the best of my knowledge there aren't now, which is something I don't agree with at all). If you didn't want to go, then where is the problem? You've already said that the system is favouring people with wealth rather than ability, but reckon they should do away with the entrance exam? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Mellelieu Posted February 20, 2008 Author Share Posted February 20, 2008 If you wanted to go then at that time there were scholarships and assisted places (to the best of my knowledge there aren't now, which is something I don't agree with at all). If you didn't want to go, then where is the problem? You've already said that the system is favouring people with wealth rather than ability, but reckon they should do away with the entrance exam? I was a boy of ten when decisions were taken about my secondary school. Hopefully my father was against it on principle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony gale's mic Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 Most comprehensives don't "fail", but don't let the facts get in the way of a rather thick slice of prejudice. Just explain to me why, because my Dad was a taxi driver, and my mum a phone operator, that I -and thousands of other working class kids from the area - got a second class education. It stinks. you wouldnt have got any better an education regardless of whether QEGS existed or not. people who go to fee paying schools still pay for state schools (and contribute quite a lot comparitively considering most are top band tax payers) and yet don't use them, which means funds can be distributed a bit more generously at least. and if people have the means to get themselves a better education, then why shouldnt they be allowed to? i'm at university now doing one of the, if not the most competitive courses around and there's plenty of people from state schools who are doing really well. there's many state schools around the country that outperform QEGS anyway. i do see where you are coming from with regards to it giving you a better start in life, but to look at it and lay the blame at the door of private schools is missing the point entirely. there's much wider issues that need tackling. btw these posts should probably be moved to another thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiggusLaddus Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 Most comprehensives don't "fail", but don't let the facts get in the way of a rather thick slice of prejudice. Just explain to me why, because my Dad was a taxi driver, and my mum a phone operator, that I -and thousands of other working class kids from the area - got a second class education. It stinks. You got a standard education, others got a better one because they paid extra. The other kids were richer than you and got a better education than you, because of the same accident of birth that meant that you were richer and got a better education than millions of other kids all over the world. It would not improve the state education one bit to get rid of public schools, it would just drag everyone down to the lowest common denominator. The only people that would want that must struggle to leave their homes under the weight of the chips on their shoulders. My dad was a drayman and my mum worked in the brewery offices. I am state educated and expect that my children will be also, but if I had the means then I would not hesitate to put my kids into the best schools that I could find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
den Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 No more posts on this thread about education please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T4E Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 PLEASE stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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