rover6 Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 We have gone backwards, from champions in 96, to not even qualifying in 2008. We have no hope for 2010. Oh for the days of Doctor Khumalo, eh? Best name ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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broadsword Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 Under McClaren it took 54 minutes to score against Andorra, under Capello, 49 minutes. So at least we're improving. Why Lampard has won as many caps as he has is a mystery to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 Why Lampard has won as many caps as he has is a mystery to me. The thing I can't understand is how he can go from being outstanding in the Champions League and PL to looking bog-standard in an England shirt. He will always be picked because he's world class for Chelsea. Capello needs to be brave and pick the squad on performances in an England shirt, or at least drop some players because of their performances for the national team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rover6 Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 Capello won't drop Lampard because he is fully desensitized to the enraging contradiction of the club genius-cum-international bambi. If Francesco Totti isn't an example of the international footballer paradox, I don't know what he is. In fact, I'm sure the guy is English - there must've been an error somewhere along the line. Wait... no, he has a World Cup medal to his name. Capello is accustomed to his national side defying the odds and nature by playing like fishermen from Azerbaijan. Frank Lampard's lardy crapness probably seems a delightful talent to the new England boss compared the lethargic Italians. Maybe Lampard should be dropped but the whole England circus is a tribal maelstrom of cannibalism, lead by the frenzied media - any player who comes in is unlikely to have the time and games to settle into the side. Take Downing, for example. As far as I know, the media have written him off as no-hoper with pace. However, he is undoubtedly better than that. If he was given concerted games and trust by all, I'm sure he'd prove a useful (if not brilliant) left winger for England. But no-one's permitted the luxury of patience or time on the international scene - apart from the Machiavellian manager who ties himself to his throne by tickling an exceptionally long and lucrative contract out of the FA. Steve McClaren dropped Beckham, seeking a new direction - the media start gorging themselves on their own limbs in their desperation for our Christoper Columbus to rejoin. No-one's allowed to formulate a long-term action plan for England. It's all ad-hoc, media driven, hype-infested, and instantly demanded. It's a waste of time. That's not mentioning the embarrassing dearth of talent in England, the supposed home of football. The technique is, on average, poor, and the Premier League heaving with foreign duds like Djimi Traore's and Aaron Mokoenas revelling in the obsession with experience. English football's late developers are being snuffed out. What's that? Another 36 year old goalie from Spain arriving to sit on the bench in the Premier LEague? Come on the Engeerrrrland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceman Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 Oh for the days of Doctor Khumalo, eh? Best name ever. hahahaha, well done Rover..yeah he was a good player... in 96 we won the cup,98 we were losing finalists,2000,losing semi finalists,2002,losing Quarter Finalists,2004,knocked out in the 2nd round,2006,1st Round knocked out and well it just had to be 2008,we dont even qualify... watch out for 2 players though...Kagiso Dickagcoi and Teko Modise... 2 very promising players.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beta Ray Bill Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 Don't suppose anyone knows a pub in Edinburgh that is likely to be showing the England game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Castell Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 Rooney should be dropped from the squad. He hasn't scored for 2 years or so, and always screams at the ref. It might be the kick up the bum he needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veevs Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 Worrying that Santa looks to be heading to a full 90mins tonight.. But he is having a pretty damn fine game (just wish the commentator would stop running on about him), boy I wish we had pacey attacking midfielders.. he is brilliant at that target man strike roll... holding it up for the midfielders or flicking it on to his quick sidekick up front. Paraguay now topping the SA group by 5 points (or well at this rate they should be by the end of the match).. that has to be a little pressure on the big boys.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanlorenzo Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 Worrying that Santa looks to be heading to a full 90mins tonight.. But he is having a pretty damn fine game (just wish the commentator would stop running on about him), boy I wish we had pacey attacking midfielders.. he is brilliant at that target man strike roll... holding it up for the midfielders or flicking it on to his quick sidekick up front. Paraguay now topping the SA group by 5 points (or well at this rate they should be by the end of the match).. that has to be a little pressure on the big boys.. Roque finished the match unharmed. He flicked on to Valdez for the second goal as Paraguay coasted to a win. Roque looked fit and he needs the match fitness. he will be ready for Arsenal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCMC1875 Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 What's Terry been saying - Graham Taylor on R5 Live this am saying he might regret it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckyRover Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 Wittering on about REVENGE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head Rover Heels Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 What's Terry been saying - Graham Taylor on R5 Live this am saying he might regret it? Depends which source you believe Terry says we are underdogs Terry vows revenge Terry happy to settle for draw Brilliant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob fleming Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 What's Terry been saying - Graham Taylor on R5 Live this am saying he might regret it? He called Taylor "Tunip Head". Totally uncalled for if you ask me. ( "bob flaming" - very good Ste ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RibbleValleyRover Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 Just watched the Paraguay vs Venzuela game on Sky Sports 1 and Roque was absolutely superb in the game and played a key part in both goals. He was unlucky not to score a couple of times himself. Interesting to see Paraguay top of the qualifying table by 5 points! ahead of Brazil and Argentina. The game is being shown again at 1:30pm on Sky Sports 1, I highly recommend watching the first half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claytons Left Boot Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 What's Terry been saying - Graham Taylor on R5 Live this am saying he might regret it? Stuff like.......we was (we were).....free (three).....wiv (with).....fink (think)...... And all on national tv. There could be small children watching and laughing at his attempts at English. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.R.F.C Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 Was in Bratislava for our game against Slovakia and we were robbed by the inept performance of some Ruskie referee. According to Chris Baird the following conversation went on: "Ref ref it hit his hand thats a pen" "Yes I know it hit his hand" "Why didn't you give the penalty then" *ref runs off* Cracking banter on the trip though via Paris. Only the Czech Rep to beat tonight hmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Presty On Tour Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 What a chance for Wales! That's why we don't make the major tournaments, bodin all over again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultrablue Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 very tidy goal from the welsh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Presty On Tour Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 Bloody Russians! A very young and inexperienced Welsh side gave it their best shot but to be fair, Russia had so many more gears to use if they wanted to. Shame about the penalty miss from Bale and that we couldn't hold out for the draw after a great equaliser. If you don't take the opportunities at this level then you will regret it. It's been the same old story for Wales for decades and that's why until this is fixed, there will be no tournament qualification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultrablue Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 Wales shouldn't be too hard on themselves - it was a great defensive display, and perhaps if Bale had not thrown his arms and legs in the air for what was already a legitimate pen, then the dubious one at the other end minutes later may not have been given. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grabbi Graeme Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 England team James A Cole Brown Ferdinand Terry Lampard Barry Walcott J Cole Heskey Rooney So Walcott kept in the side and a rightful start for J Cole, are hopes rest on Heskey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trs Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 Highlights of croatia v england being shown "free" at 11.30pm. http://www.setantasports.com/en/Sport/News...ocale/football/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grabbi Graeme Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 Bentley isn't even on the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trs Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 Walcott scored for England 1-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipl Posted September 10, 2008 Author Share Posted September 10, 2008 There is some spectacularly bad refereeing going on in practically every game tonight. Been watching Italy v Georgia (Zura out injured) and Luca Toni was in on goal and grabbed by the balls and dragged to the ground. No Pen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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