CapeTownRover Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 apart from Eric Black and Colin Hendry, just who are the rest of the backroom staff and what are their roles? I know Mimms is Goalkeeping Coach, but what is Brunskills role? I quite like Eric Black as assistant, but Hendry and Brunskill seems to be adding very little to the overall performance or lack of it in terms of the squad. Now there is talk that Berg will look to bring in his own guys, but just who should he remove from the current setup? Ian Dowie and Mike Newell perhaps to come in wouldnt be a bad option for Berg
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T.J.Newton Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 Not to bothered who comes in as long as they are employed solely on there coaching ability and not there past relation to the club(or some other supposedly fan appeasing PR bumfluff).
CapeTownRover Posted December 11, 2012 Author Posted December 11, 2012 i still dont understand what Brunskills role is though. Also, who is our physio and club doctor? I seem to remember back in the Hughes and Souness days, we had some highly respected team doctors and so on. Just cant remember the guys name, think he joined Uniteds backroom team. Or am i thinking of a goalkeeping coach?
hollowsr Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 http://www.rovers.co.uk/team/staff-profiles/
CapeTownRover Posted December 11, 2012 Author Posted December 11, 2012 that is one massive backroom staff right there. Lol. So many fitness and conditioning coaches, so why is our players so much out of shape. Crazy
chaddyrovers Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 Physio is still Dave Fevre and club doctor is Duncan Robertson. that is one massive backroom staff right there. Lol. So many fitness and conditioning coaches, so why is our players so much out of shape. Crazy Mark Howord left in the summer for some Crotian fitness coach to come in but has work permit issues.
CapeTownRover Posted December 11, 2012 Author Posted December 11, 2012 is that Runya bollocksov Chaddy? Lol
hollowsr Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 I think it's hard to know who does what and how much someone does. I've seen it on here that Hendry looks like he does nothing on match days but to be honest I wouldnt expect the coaches to do a massive amount besides warm up exercises on a match day only way we would know is by being at the training ground or speaking to players. Dave Fevre is a highly rated physio is many circles, was Man Utd 1st team physio until Kidd came here and he followed think he also worked at Wigan Warriors before that. Its hard to know a lot about the fitness guys to be honest but think one has a background in army type training but could be wrong
Reedy You're A Star Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 i still dont understand what Brunskills role is though. Also, who is our physio and club doctor? I seem to remember back in the Hughes and Souness days, we had some highly respected team doctors and so on. Just cant remember the guys name, think he joined Uniteds backroom team. Or am i thinking of a goalkeeping coach? Are you thinking of Dave Fevre? Didn't he come from Utd to us? Is he still here?
CapeTownRover Posted December 11, 2012 Author Posted December 11, 2012 yeh, but its been clear for a while now, that the players look unfit and performances are dropping at an alarming rate. So if we have all these fitness guys, then what are the players doing?
davulsukur Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 Are the back room staff changes definitely happening then?
chaddyrovers Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 Are the back room staff changes definitely happening then? Yeah according to Cryer and Nicko.
Roost Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 apart from Eric Black and Colin Hendry, just who are the rest of the backroom staff and what are their roles? I know Mimms is Goalkeeping Coach, but what is Brunskills role? I quite like Eric Black as assistant, but Hendry and Brunskill seems to be adding very little to the overall performance or lack of it in terms of the squad. Now there is talk that Berg will look to bring in his own guys, but just who should he remove from the current setup? Ian Dowie and Mike Newell perhaps to come in wouldnt be a bad option for Berg Judging by the defensive performance against Cardiff, Hendry should be done on the Trade Description Act
CapeTownRover Posted December 11, 2012 Author Posted December 11, 2012 the one thing i just dont quite get. Berg and Hendry were 2 of the best center backs, played under some of the best managers, and played along some top players. The one thing i would have expected was better organisation in defence, as both should have plenty of experience in that department.
Kelbo Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 the one thing i just dont quite get. Berg and Hendry were 2 of the best center backs, played under some of the best managers, and played along some top players. The one thing i would have expected was better organisation in defence, as both should have plenty of experience in that department. On the same hand, Nigel Winterburn and Tony Adams were members of the meanest defence ever to play at top level in the UK!! It doesnt work that way I am afraid, I know it should in theory, in practice though its a different matter. I posted this about 12 or 18 months back, Kevin Hird told me when he played at Rovers, most would come off the park at half time having done the job the manager had told them to do but hadnt really a clue as to what had really happened in the game, Tony Parkes would come into the dressing room having played 45 minutes and know exactly what had happened, how the opposition were playing and how to resolve problems on the park, thats the difference, being a player is one thing, a manager something else, indeed, Mourinho was a PE teacher and never played at the top level, strange isnt it!!
CapeTownRover Posted December 11, 2012 Author Posted December 11, 2012 not saying it will always work, but you can still explain to Dann and Hanley about getting into certain positions, and picking up players, getting tight, or standing off slightly etc etc im sure they are being told this, but its clear that they are just not up to the standard which Berg requires them to be at. Which again one must ask, why does he not change that defensive pairing, and bring in the Bearded one
hollowsr Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 I personally think that top level players quite often don't make the best coaches because a lot of the stuff they do is just instinct which can't be taught, also if you're very good at something can sometimes be difficult to explain things. My own personal take on it anyway, probably rubbish
Amo Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 We can't defend from the front, that's why. The whole is greater than the sum of its parts.
CapeTownRover Posted December 11, 2012 Author Posted December 11, 2012 Nicko said on twitter, that we will announce a new coach next week. I think he said it was somebody who is still in a job, or who will only be available next week.
greco Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 I personally think that top level players quite often don't make the best coaches because a lot of the stuff they do is just instinct which can't be taught, also if you're very good at something can sometimes be difficult to explain things. My own personal take on it anyway, probably rubbish nope, thats not rubbish. That goes for a lot of differents sports. good that berg is getting his own men in, with the way our club is run, berg needs all the loyalty/sanity he can get. Hopefully they are up to the task.
Kelbo Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 I personally think that top level players quite often don't make the best coaches because a lot of the stuff they do is just instinct which can't be taught, also if you're very good at something can sometimes be difficult to explain things. My own personal take on it anyway, probably rubbish Probably not rubbish, more likely correct and if you are a top player with top clubs, you cant understand why lesser players cant do the things which are natural to yourself, this is one small point, Berbatov, many call him lazy, has probably the best first touch I have ever seen and he plays a ball into space which others cant read, he does it quickly and instinctively as you say, sometimes, that pass looks awful to supporters, to someone on the same wavelength, a wonder pass!!
Kelbo Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 Nicko said on twitter, that we will announce a new coach next week. I think he said it was somebody who is still in a job, or who will only be available next week. Do Lillestrom end their season officially next week ?
CapeTownRover Posted December 11, 2012 Author Posted December 11, 2012 not sure. At 1st i thought perhaps it was Joe Jordan, after Cryer mentioned it. But then Nicko said its somebody who will only be available next week, so im assuming he is still in a job right now.
Amo Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 not sure. At 1st i thought perhaps it was Joe Jordan, after Cryer mentioned it. But then Nicko said its somebody who will only be available next week, so im assuming he is still in a job right now. Joe Jordan's already at QPR.
hollowsr Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 Sure Nicko says somewhere that they are on holiday. Can't be bothered to dig out now Norwegian top league apparently finished on the 18th November which makes me think it will be someone from there but Nicko seems to rate them very highly which makes me think it may not be as not sure how many coaches he would know
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