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[chaddyrovers]

6 is defensive midfielder not a centre back. 

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[joey_big_nose]

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

Anderson has the 6 is working next to Rice is working and looks good overall partnership 

Tuchel is playing a balanced team with players playing in their correct position. No shoehorning of players to get them in. 

Looks a good overall team. 

Eze must go to.the world cup. Gives you different type of player in a couple of roles

Yeah.... Theres a conventional view that the defensive player is the deeper midfield partner, and the offensive one further forward. But often it works better the other way round. 

Tugay and Savage were like that. Tugay would drop off and pick up the ball deep and do his incredible passing. Savage would push up and closing down ahead of him to win the ball back.

[chaddyrovers]

12 minutes ago, joey_big_nose said:

Yeah.... Theres a conventional view that the defensive player is the deeper midfield partner, and the offensive one further forward. But often it works better the other way round. 

Tugay and Savage were like that. Tugay would drop off and pick up the ball deep and do his incredible passing. Savage would push up and closing down ahead of him to win the ball back.

Think Anderson and Rice partnership works. Anderson is a clever football. Very good player and only going to get better

[roversfan99]

Anderson is a good player but I am not convinced that he is beyond good Premier League standard. 

He also doesnt play as deep for Forest so it isnt necessarily a position hes most comfortable in. Against poor to awful opposition, thats not been tested at all so far in an England shirt and hes had free reign really. Against better teams, I would wonder how he would fare. I do think that Wharton is more well suited to that role as he plays it every week.

[Upside Down]

7 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

6 is defensive midfielder not a centre back. 

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Wrong.

[K-Hod]

Not sure what Tuchel said about the Wembley atmosphere is worth crying about.

It's a graft to get to Wembley midweek and hard to get back via public transport, so that doesn't make for a rousing atmosphere. For me, it would be so much better playing at club grounds around the country and saving Wembley for the important matches.

[Bronzed A Donis]

8 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

6 is defensive midfielder not a centre back. 

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We should refer to it as a half back and go full retro.

Apart from Number 1 and number 9, until Carragher, Neville and all the other double pivot bros started using it. I had never in my life, playing or watching heard fans or fellow players use numbers to describe positions.

Adams, Baresi and Moore want their number back !

What position does number 14 play?!

Anyway England do what we always doz cruise through qualifying against teams that would struggle.innthe championship.

We've as much a chance as anyone at the world cup. Southgate nearly did it and he was a nice bloke but tactically limited. If Tuchel can avoid falling out with people beforehand there's every chance.

[roverandout]

10 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Yeah, its a total waste of time trying to judge against such dreadful opposition.

One thing I do think is that Tuchel seems happy to try and build the most balanced team, rather than the one with the best players.

England's best position is clearly number 10, with Bellingham, Foden and Palmer, and even beyond that, Eze and Rogers. All (or at least the first 4) are better than anyone we can muster up wide left. But Kane is slow and drops off, to get the best out of him we need a quick left winger who can go in behind so its either Gordon or Rashford. No sticking a Foden, a Palmer, even a Grealish there, the main thought is balance. He clearly wants 2 out and out wingers.

Same in midfield. Rice has often been wrongly used as a holding midfielder, now hes being balanced off with Anderson.

Its the right approach after decades of imbalanced teams but the question is, even if its balanced, how far can a team go with a number of players that are good but nothing special in it, complimenting the stand out players. Expectations in the past have been built on the idea of all of our stand out players on the pitch at the same time.

I do think he needs to get in one of our top class number 10s, probably Bellingham, and get Foden, Palmer and Wharton amongst it fighting for the first 11. Just not all of them playing at the same time.

Theres plenty of top class players I'm the England team.  Argentina won the World Cup without a single World class player 

[roverandout]

Wharton rice and Bellingham would be one of the best midfields at the world cup 

[K-Hod]

20 minutes ago, roverandout said:

Theres plenty of top class players I'm the England team.  Argentina won the World Cup without a single World class player 

Please stop.

[Eddie]

12 hours ago, Gav said:

Best fans in the World Tuchel. It will do you good to remember that.

 

 

Not sure on the best fans in the world stuff, but his criticism isn't of England fans in general or how well they travel. It's specific to the atmosphere at England's home stadium. It isn't great there; there are lots of reasons for that, but I understand his observations.