England

[OsloRover]

45 minutes ago, ... said:

Qualifications not competitive? I mean it's not a friendly 🤷‍♂️

It’s competitive, but he didn’t start

[RevidgeBlue]

2 hours ago, OsloRover said:

It’s competitive, but he didn’t start

So if he came on during the World Cup final and scored the winner it wouldnt count?

That's ridiculous. The add on should be triggered by an appearance in a competitive match, not a start.

[KentExile]

8 hours ago, ... said:

Qualifications not competitive? I mean it's not a friendly 🤷‍♂️

The quote said Rovers get the payment when he STARTS a competitive match for England

Which may or may not be true, but that's what Jackson stated in his article that I linked

Edited November 14 by KentExile

[KentExile]

5 hours ago, RevidgeBlue said:

So if he came on during the World Cup final and scored the winner it wouldnt count?

That's ridiculous. The add on should be triggered by an appearance in a competitive match, not a start.

Any add on is triggered by whatever is written in the contract.  Which in turn comes down to how desperate Rovers were to make the sale in order to keep the lights on

It could say that Rovers get £1Bn if Wharton is the first dog on the moon

Edited November 14 by KentExile

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1 hour ago, KentExile said:

The quote said Rovers get the payment when he STARTS a competitive match for England

Which may or may not be true, but that's what Jackson stated in his article that I linked

Got ya 👍🏻👍🏻

[Tim Southampton Rover]

Whether it’s a fee for a competitive appearance or a starting bonus, any money coming in feels like a bonus. For me, I just love seeing Adam on the big stage. He’s earned it, his family has earned it, and so have we as supporters. Hopefully, the club benefits too. The more young players see talents like Wharton coming through our system, representing the club, and then progressing to bigger opportunities, the stronger we’ll become as a club.

[KentExile]

43 minutes ago, Tim Southampton Rover said:

Whether it’s a fee for a competitive appearance or a starting bonus, any money coming in feels like a bonus. For me, I just love seeing Adam on the big stage. He’s earned it, his family has earned it, and so have we as supporters. Hopefully, the club benefits too. The more young players see talents like Wharton coming through our system, representing the club, and then progressing to bigger opportunities, the stronger we’ll become as a club.

 

A bonus for Venkys, not for Rovers unfortunately, income does not increase our budget, this has been reiterated by Gestede, Pasha etc on multiple occasions

 

Edited November 14 by KentExile

[Mattyblue]

Tim, Everything you say there makes perfect sense for normal clubs… alas we aren’t one, this club isn’t going to be any stronger as a result.

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

The man Tuchel keeps on winning,appears to have a good rapport with this group of players.

Edited November 14 by SIMON GARNERS 194

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

11 hours ago, ... said:

Qualifications not competitive? I mean it's not a friendly 🤷‍♂️

I would have thought last nights game would be classed as “ competitive “.

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Just now, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

I would have thought last nights game would be classed as “ competitive “.

It is but I misread the original statement competitive Starts

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

The only good thing as far as I can see is we’ll be able to say to potential young players - “If you sign for us you’ll get a chance early on if you’re good enough - you could be the next Adam Wharton “.

[RevidgeBlue]

2 hours ago, Tim Southampton Rover said:

Whether it’s a fee for a competitive appearance or a starting bonus, any money coming in feels like a bonus. For me, I just love seeing Adam on the big stage. He’s earned it, his family has earned it, and so have we as supporters. Hopefully, the club benefits too. The more young players see talents like Wharton coming through our system, representing the club, and then progressing to bigger opportunities, the stronger we’ll become as a club.

Im not particularly interested in us developing players for other Clubs, however old, I only want to see players doing well in the blue and white halves and us winning football matches as a result.

Selling someone for a huge fee gives me as a fan  no benefit or enjoyment whatsoever. Quite the reverse. Then there's the added factor to be taken into account that unlike at any other normally run Clubs it doesn't appear to make any significant difference to our transfer budget anyway.

Obviously, I want Adam Wharton to do as well as possible as he genuinely loves the Club and it wasnt his fault he left, he was pushed out of the door way before his natural time to pay the bills.

In the case of say Phillips Id be completely neutral. I dont wish him any harm, but at the same time Id get no enjoyment out of him playing for England whatsoever. It'd only be a brutal reminder of how badly we were shafted on him.

[Tim Southampton Rover]

2 hours ago, KentExile said:

 

A bonus for Venkys, not for Rovers unfortunately, income does not increase our budget, this has been reiterated by Gestede, Pasha etc on multiple occasions

 

Yes, you are right, however, even if the budget doesn’t change, I still think this can help the club in other ways like continuing to build our academy reputation and encouraging young players to come through the system and want to stay with us instead of jumping to the first club that comes along that offers sparkly shiny things. Hopefully, that kind of progress benefits the club even if we don't see a penny of any bonus clauses. 

Again, as mentioned by another person, at a normal club that would happen but this is Rovers 🤣

[RevidgeBlue]

1 hour ago, ... said:

It is but I misread the original statement competitive Starts

That's always assuming Jackson got it right.

So as I alluded to last night, shocking negotiation by Rovers if true.

So hypothetically, he could come on as sub throughout the WC and be a difference maker off the bench in many of the games, and score the winner in the Final, and it wouldn't count!

[Tim Southampton Rover]

Judging by Rovers over-the-top reaction to Mr Jackson, he knows it all....first team starters, the lot! 😂

[chaddyrovers]

 

[roverandout]

Finally get to see Wharton rice and Bellingham together 

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

Strong selection..like this Manager.

[roversfan99]

Not sure you are getting very far with Dan Burn playing behind it though. Sure it will be ok against poor opposition today.

Unfortunate that more money lines Venkys pockets never to be seen.

[roverandout]

9 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Not sure you are getting very far with Dan Burn playing behind it though. Sure it will be ok against poor opposition today.

Unfortunate that more money lines Venkys pockets never to be seen.

Dan burn won't see a minute of the world cup.  Konsa ghuei and Stones are our main 3 with possibly colwill if he comes back from injury 

[oneandycrawford]

38 minutes ago, roverandout said:

Dan burn won't see a minute of the world cup.  Konsa ghuei and Stones are our main 3 with possibly colwill if he comes back from injury 

I don't really see the point in that case. I guess Tuchel might be thinking he gives cover in two positions so allows him an extra elsewhere - probably another no.10?

[RevidgeBlue]

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

 

Nice Christmas bonus for Gestede and Pasha.

Won't benefit us any but pleased for Wharton.

How on earth are we going to cope without the Forest lad?

Lol.

[M_B]

1 hour ago, roversfan99 said:

Not sure you are getting very far with Dan Burn playing behind it though. Sure it will be ok against poor opposition today.

Unfortunate that more money lines Venkys pockets never to be seen.

And yet, the Adam Wharton thread is a 139 page argument about how much we got/will get/should have got for him. 

[RevidgeBlue]

10 minutes ago, M_B said:

And yet, the Adam Wharton thread is a 139 page argument about how much we got/will get/should have got for him. 

People were rightly extremely annoyed we virtually gave him away to keep the lights on.