Premier League

[speeeeeeedie]

Here are all teams promoted from the Championship in the last 10 years;

2014-15: Bournemouth, Watford, Norwich City

2015-16: Burnley, Middlesbrough, Hull City

2016-17: Newcastle United, Brighton and Hove Albion, Huddersfield Town

2017-18: Wolverhampton Wanderers, Cardiff City, Fulham

2018-19: Norwich City, Sheffield United, Aston Villa

2019-20: Leeds United, West Bromwich Albion, Fulham

2020-21: Norwich City, Watford, Brentford

2021-22: Fulham, Bournemouth, Nottingham Forest

2022-23: Sheffield United, Burnley, Luton Town

2023-24: Leicester City, Ipswich Town, Southampton

2024-25: Leeds United, Burnley, ????

Newcastle, Wolves, Brighton, Brentford, Villa, and so far Forest, came up and stayed up. 

Bournemouth, Burnley, Fulham, Sheffield Utd, Watford, Norwich, and now Leeds have yoyo'd with varying degrees of success. 

Boro, Huddersfield, West Brom, Hull, Luton, and Cardiff all went down never to be seen again. 3 of them will be playing League 1 football next season. 

What will happen to this season's 3? 

I think a big part of staying up is having a solid set up behind the scenes. You can spend millions on players, but without a cohesive plan and a clear direction teams will struggle. Luton have found that out very abruptly. They were lucky to get promoted. Didn't really know what to do. Went down, and now down again.

[chaddyrovers]

14 hours ago, K-Hod said:

Yes, but it doesn't make it right, does it?

Match going fans are cast aside more and more, because Sky TV is calling the shots.

Shit situation tbh.

Clubs want more Revenue from TV rights and there is only one way to do this plus football isn't just Saturday 3pm sport anymore. PL is a global brand and why it's the best league in the world 

14 hours ago, Mattyblue said:

It hasn’t ’been like this for years’ at all.

Before this season you’d see three EFL games maximum (often two) a week on TV - now there’s five at 12.30 on a Saturday alone.

Next season will see every non 3pm Saturday game in the PL on TV, which considering there seems to be more games on MOTD2 than MOTD these days will be far more than ever before.

It has never been like this.

There is 7 EFL 12.30 kick off normally plus Friday night game

On PL, with 8 PL teams in Europe including possibly 6 teams in the champions league, games were be moved around. 

10 hours ago, Eddie said:

I do actually think Chaddy raises a fair point on this one. 

There have been clubs that have successfully made the transition (just look at Forest), but a lot of promoted clubs end up overpaying for the Championship's best performers. I think part of that is an intentional strategy for yo-yoing, but it makes survival a major challenge. 

Take Ipswich for example. Did many really believe the Szmodics was a Premier League player? Or even someone you'd want coming on for the final 15/20 minutes in a Premier League match? He's wonderful at this level, but he was always going to struggle to make the step up. When you sign players like that, you make your way back down to their level. 

Exactly my points Eddie. Teams come up but don't invest in PL Quality but top end Championship quality instead. 

7 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Ipswich did spend quite big but all they can attract/afford in wages is top end Championship players.

The Premier League has been terrible this season. 

But did Ipswich spent it on PL quality? 15m for Muric? Was he worth all that money? Hutchinson for 20m? 

Delap has proven he was worth and now looks off to Utd in the summer. 

[Mattyblue]

Pedantically correcting my post… but accidentally emphasising the point I was making, so thanks for that 👌

[roversfan99]

Certainly hasnt been the best league in the world this season. 

No title race and the gap between the Premier League and the Championship growing and growing due to the financial inequalities that grow and grow.

[chaddyrovers]

What league is better? 

Maybe those teams should have bought better instead of overpaying for players Muric. 

Forest done excellent this season. Deserved their European place. Pleased for that club. 

 

[GHR]

Well, a cursory glance at the Serie A table shows that, with two games to play:

- One of two teams can still be crowned champions, with a play off to determine who still a possibility.

- Two points separate 4th from 7th, which includes the final CL spot and singular spots for the Europa and Conference Leagues. 7th get nothing.

- Two from (realistically) three teams at the bottom are still to be relegated.

Italy might not have the snazzy packaging of the Premier League or allure of Pep or Salah or whatever shite Sky are peddling this week, but if I wanted to look at something pretty I'd go for a wallk in the country. 'Perfection' does not necessarily equal 'Intrigue' or 'Entertainment'.

[roversfan99]

The problem is that when sky repeatedly say the best league in the world, those lacking critical faculty swallow it up and assume its constantly the case.

All I know is that this season, the Premier League has been shite. A title "race" and relegation "fight" all done and dusted with so many games still left to play. The main supposed talking point from the weekend just gone was a player being booed by his own fans. 

That isnt down to the growing financial inequality that makes it harder and harder for teams to avoid embarassing relegation once they go up. Its because one of them signed a poor quality keeper.