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[RevidgeBlue]

1 hour ago, arbitro said:

If it's Carragher your referring to then be just be speaking with forked tongue because in the clip he calls it as a red.

https://www.skysports.com/football/video/33727/13477696/chelsea-v-arsenal-jamie-carragher-analyses-moises-caicedos-red-card

 

No it wasn't Carragher. I'll see if I can find the recording.

[Guy N. Cognito]

4 hours ago, arbitro said:

If it's Carragher your referring to then be just be speaking with forked tongue because in the clip he calls it as a red.

https://www.skysports.com/football/video/33727/13477696/chelsea-v-arsenal-jamie-carragher-analyses-moises-caicedos-red-card

 

Carragher's lucky to even have a media career. People have been cancelled for much less.

[RevidgeBlue]

8 hours ago, RevidgeBlue said:

No it wasn't Carragher. I'll see if I can find the recording.

Was Theo Walcott and another black player I didnt recognise called Daniel.

There was a similar sort of incident in the Birmingham v Watford game last night. Two players challenged for a bouncing ball simultaneously and the Watford player might have got a tiny bit of the ball but caught the Birmingham player studs up high up on the knee.

A much worse tackle than the Caicedo one imo but again the onfield decision was a yellow.

[arbitro]

5 hours ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Was Theo Walcott and another black player I didnt recognise called Daniel.

There was a similar sort of incident in the Birmingham v Watford game last night. Two players challenged for a bouncing ball simultaneously and the Watford player might have got a tiny bit of the ball but caught the Birmingham player studs up high up on the knee.

A much worse tackle than the Caicedo one imo but again the onfield decision was a yellow.

But with VAR it would almost certainly been an OFR and very likely upgraded to a red as would Whiteman for his challenge on Tronstadt.

[RevidgeBlue]

30 minutes ago, arbitro said:

But with VAR it would almost certainly been an OFR and very likely upgraded to a red as would Whiteman for his challenge on Tronstadt.

Arguably for me that's the only time VAR is useful rather than simply being a means to chalk off great goals for the most trivial of infractions. (On the Tronstad one I thought that should have been yellow, the one on Baradji should have been red and was so extreme it warranted an additional ban on top of the standard three games)

For me the Watford one should have been red, the Chelsea one definitely shouldnt, and VAR shouldn't have got involved in the first place.

On a similar note, I think it's an absolute nonsense that VAR can only intervene in straight red card offences but can't in the case of a second yellow leading to a red. 

Ditto when something factual happens like a corner or a throw wrongly being given or not given which could obviously lead to a goal being scored or stop a crucial opportunity.

[arbitro]

2 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Arguably for me that's the only time VAR is useful rather than simply being a means to chalk off great goals for the most trivial of infractions. (On the Tronstad one I thought that should have been yellow, the one on Baradji should have been red and was so extreme it warranted an additional ban on top of the standard three games)

For me the Watford one should have been red, the Chelsea one definitely shouldnt, and VAR shouldn't have got involved in the first place.

On a similar note, I think it's an absolute nonsense that VAR can only intervene in straight red card offences but can't in the case of a second yellow leading to a red. 

Ditto when something factual happens like a corner or a throw wrongly being given or not given which could obviously lead to a goal being scored or stop a crucial opportunity.

Both challenges ticked every box for a red card including endangering an opponents safety and therefore should have been dealt with accordingly.

In my opinion VAR has done what it should by sending the referee for an OFR in the Chelsea game. Had VAR been used at Birmingham I have no doubt the same process and outcome would have happened.

Tackles that could badly injure players should be dealt with accordingly in my view.

[RevidgeBlue]

1 minute ago, arbitro said:

Both challenges ticked every box for a red card including endangering an opponents safety and therefore should have been dealt with accordingly.

In my opinion VAR has done what it should by sending the referee for an OFR in the Chelsea game. Had VAR been used at Birmingham I have no doubt the same process and outcome would have happened.

Tackles that could badly injure players should be dealt with accordingly in my view.

We'll have to agree to disagree, the Chelsea one was studs down, Caicedo didn't leave the ground and his body wasn't out of control. There was no malicious intent whatsoever, and it was a purely accidental collision due to the Arsenal player getting there a fraction earlier.

For me it ticked every single box why it shouldnt be a red. Not every single foul should be a yellow or red as Im sure you'd agree.