2025 Summer Transfer Thread. 😂

[alexanders]

On the striker issue; I think VI said that we need more players chipping in with goals. So far in preseason we got goals from  Gueye, De Neve, Ohashi x 2, Cantwell, Tyjon and AK. 
 

I don’t think we will sign a new striker or are on the look out for one. However no playing time for Leonard. A couple of injuries and we would be in big trouble. 

Edited 8 hours ago by alexanders

[MarkBRFC]

42 minutes ago, Forever Blue said:

If we only play 1 up front and have 3 strikers. I don’t see the need for another. I doubt the 3 strikers see the need for another either. You can’t just keep accumulating players. 

Unless of course Val doesn’t think the 3 strikers are good enough. In which case you’d imagine we’re on the lookout for another one. 

I think two strikers.

Leonard has to go on loan, he can't have another season here being 3rd choice at his age.

I dont think we'll sign another striker though, I think Kargbo will be used there if the other two are unavailable as he played there a lot for his last club, and there's Tyjon who could be used but seems better in the "10".

[Forever Blue]

1 minute ago, MarkBRFC said:

I think two strikers.

Leonard has to go on loan, he can't have another season here being 3rd choice at his age.

I dont think we'll sign another striker though, I think Kargbo will be used there if the other two are unavailable as he played there a lot for his last club, and there's Tyjon who could be used but seems better in the "10".

I think Leonard showed a lot of promise under JDT, but he needs games in L1 to build his confidence.  I think his movement is really good, similar to Ohashi in the way he finds space. He just needs a bit of luck with injuries.

[Forever Blue]

24 minutes ago, alex l said:

Until you have a striker hitting 20+ a season, you're always on the look out for a better striker. 

In an ideal world perhaps, but I don’t think anyone in the Championship got 20 league goals last season. It’s quite rare in fact. We’ve been a bit spoiled with the goal returns on the last few years of AA and BBD. Most clubs in the Championship never have a 20 goal striker. 

[Emerald Isle Rover]

8 minutes ago, Forever Blue said:

In an ideal world perhaps, but I don’t think anyone in the Championship got 20 league goals last season. It’s quite rare in fact. We’ve been a bit spoiled with the goal returns on the last few years of AA and BBD. Most clubs in the Championship never have a 20 goal striker. 

Really? Define rare pretty sure over the last 5/6 seasons there’s been a good few players hitting 20 goals plus 

[Ossydave]

8 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

Really? Define rare pretty sure over the last 5/6 seasons there’s been a good few players hitting 20 goals plus 

Correct.....

 

[Tomphil2]

We need to stop pinning our hopes on Leonard and root out another striker from somewhere.

[wilsdenrover]

There’s no point having players with potential if our wage structure means they leave as soon as they fulfil it. 

[Emerald Isle Rover]

Just now, wilsdenrover said:

There’s no point having players with potential if our wage structure means they leave as soon as they fulfil it. 

I think the aim is they sign for less than the structure early and if/when they fulfill their potential they are sold on for decent fees. That’s the aim 

[wilsdenrover]

Just now, Emerald Isle Rover said:

I think the aim is they sign for less than the structure early and if/when they fulfill their potential they are sold on for decent fees. That’s the aim 

I think that too.

There’d be a point to that if the fees were then invested in better and better potential.

I don’t see this happening though.

[Emerald Isle Rover]

2 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said:

I think that too.

There’d be a point to that if the fees were then invested in better and better potential.

I don’t see this happening though.

Yes that’s the annoying thing as a fan if the model is to work the money must be reinvested correctly not a very small portion of it 

[MarkBRFC]

Take Whartons case, nobody is asking for the whole fee to be reinvested, but half of that fee would have bought two very good championship players, and it's what all normal clubs do.

Here though it's just a few hundred grand here and there, and pass it off as significant investment.

[Crimpshrine]

4 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

I think the aim is they sign for less than the structure early and if/when they fulfill their potential they are sold on for decent fees. That’s the aim 

If a young, poorly paid, player does really well but knows the intention is to sell him, and there is interest from other clubs, is he likely to sign a new contract ? 

There will be exceptions like AW who loves the club and was happy to sign but, in general, a flawed policy.

[Mercer]

Think we need a minimum of 4 plus a replacement for any departures (will be surprised if Brittain and Travis are here when the window closes).

CB:  Carter seems to be made of glass whilst we have to see how Wharton goes with his knee (Wharton has also missed long spells with other injuries as well)

CM:  Tavares is unproven, a washed-up Forshaw (already injured) should never have been re-signed and Montgomery has proved nothing yet other than he is an athlete (as was Jason Lowe!!!)

RW:  A desperate, desperate need.  Hedges offers almost nothing offensively (was it 1 goal and 2 assists last season?)

CF:  Leonard needs loaning out (L1 or even L2) until at least the Jan. window in order to see if he can hack game after game and score goals - after looking so promising, he's missed so much football over the last season or 2 and after his back problems you do worry if he will ever be fit enough for the rigors of professional football.

Just don't see how Ismael would be happy with just 2 or 3 more.  3 more of REAL QUALITY and we MIGHT get by but 2 or 3 more of the likes of Alebiosu, Tavares & De Neve (Alebiosu and De Neve look average at best and don't improve our starting 11 whilst Tavares is unproven with an unconvincing last season at his previous club) and we could be in real trouble.

 

Edited 7 hours ago by Mercer

[Wing Wizard Windy Miller]

9 hours ago, Ghost7 said:

I'm surprised Ismael doesn't want more players.

2 more is hardly the rebuild we were promised by Gestede or the exciting time.

4 - 5 more would be nice. We have been sleeping for weeks now, snail's pace and little ambition as always.

Exactly.  Squad is 4 over 21 players light compared to the one that ended the season. 

4 is the number we need. 

[Jimmy612]

11 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

Yes we need another right winger signing dont think it's leaves big hole 

This is the same player you wanted to offer £15K P/W to, and saw him as an integral player in our team.  What's changed?

Edited 7 hours ago by Jimmy612

[Emerald Isle Rover]

6 minutes ago, Crimpshrine said:

If a young, poorly paid, player does really well but knows the intention is to sell him, and there is interest from other clubs, is he likely to sign a new contract ? 

There will be exceptions like AW who loves the club and was happy to sign but, in general, a flawed policy.

The theory or thinking behind it is they are on pittance to begin with so getting an early contract of 4 year say on about 5/6k per week significantly more than what they would be on. In the hope they flourish and we can demand a reasonable fee

[wilsdenrover]

1 minute ago, Jimmy612 said:

This is the same player you wanted to offer £15K P/W to, and saw him as an integral player in our team.  What's changed?

He’s left.

[Forever Blue]

37 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

Really? Define rare pretty sure over the last 5/6 seasons there’s been a good few players hitting 20 goals plus 

It’s rare in that very few teams in any given season have a striker that hits 20 goals. The argument was that you should be looking for a new striker if you don’t have one that hits 20 per season. My point is that is not the norm for most clubs , it is the outlier.

The stats are available.

16/17 - 4 players

17/18 - 2 players

18/19 - 9 players

19/20 - 3 players

20/21 - 3 players

21/22- 5 players 

22/23 - 3 players

23/24 - 2 players

24/25 - 0 players

 

So as you can see, it’s a relatively small % of strikers that get 20 goals in MOST seasons - if it’s 3 per season on average that means only 3 out of about 48 strikers (2 per team) get to 20 goals. 
 

So it’s rare. 
 

 

[Emerald Isle Rover]

10 minutes ago, Mercer said:

Think we need a minimum of 4 plus a replacement for any departures (will be surprised if Brittain and Travis are here when the window closes).

CB:  Carter seems to be made of glass whilst we have to see how Wharton goes with his knee (Wharton has also missed long spells with other injuries as well)

CM:  Tavares is unproven, a washed-up Forshaw (already injured) should never have been re-signed and Montgomery has proved nothing yet other than he is an athlete (as was Jason Lowe!!!)

RW:  A desperate, desperate need.  Hedges offers almost nothing offensively (was it 1 goal and 2 assists last season?)

CF:  Leonard needs loaning out (L1 or even L2) until at least the Jan. window in order to see if he can hack game after game and score goals - after looking so promising, he's missed so much football over the last season or 2 and after his back problems you do worry if he will ever be fit enough for the rigors of professional football.

Just don't see how Ismael would be happy with just 2 or 3 more.  3 more of REAL QUALITY and we MIGHT get by but 2 or 3 more of the likes of Alebiosu, Tavares & De Neve (Alebiosu and De Neve look average at best and don't improve our starting 11 whilst Tavares is unproven with an unconvincing last season at his previous club) and we could be in real trouble.

 

 

[Emerald Isle Rover]

2 minutes ago, Forever Blue said:

It’s rare in that very few teams in any given season have a striker that hits 20 goals. The argument was that you should be looking for a new striker if you don’t have one that hits 20 per season. My point is that is not the norm for most clubs , it is the outlier.

The stats are available.

16/17 - 4 players

17/18 - 2 players

18/19 - 9 players

19/20 - 3 players

20/21 - 3 players

21/22- 5 players 

22/23 - 3 players

23/24 - 2 players

24/25 - 0 players

 

So as you can see, it’s a relatively small % of strikers that get 20 goals in MOST seasons - if it’s 3 per season on average that means only 3 out of about 48 strikers (2 per team) get to 20 goals. 
 

So it’s rare. 
 

 

Think we define the term rare differently 

your bottom paragraph is better phrased - relatively small percent certainly not ‘rare’ as per seen in your own stats

[Forever Blue]

Just now, Emerald Isle Rover said:

Think we define the term rare differently 

your bottom paragraph is better phrased - relatively small percent certainly not ‘rare’ as per seen in your own stats

I thought we’d be going down the semantics route.  Very tedious. 
 

Rare: dictionary definition- an event that doesn’t occur very often. 
 

so it’s rare. 
 

 

[Emerald Isle Rover]

1 minute ago, Forever Blue said:

I thought we’d be going down the semantics route.  Very tedious. 
 

Rare: dictionary definition- an event that doesn’t occur very often. 
 

so it’s rare. 
 

 

It’s occurred near 3 times a season on average for the last 10 years - not rare

what’s rare is a a striker scoring 30 plus. Hope that helps 

[DutchRover]

Hat Atcheson had any gametime during preseason? And are they testing Mularkey as a 3rd RB in case they decide to sell Brittain?

I would worry that we plan to rely on youth for roles like that, RW seems to be the only position I can see us actually trying to bring in a new starter now, anything else will be cheap back-ups. 

 

[Emerald Isle Rover]

3 minutes ago, Forever Blue said:

Doesn’t help at all. It’s of no value. Now get back to arguing with Mercer about something he wrote 12 months ago. That always a great read 🥱 

Something which was completely wrong. I will do thanks