davulsukur Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 1 hour ago, roversfan99 said: Elliott Jackson has said we are "working on" a deal for De Neve. Ppfffttt.. not even advanced talks? Rudy's probably only just found him on Champ Man. 2 Quote
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Forever Blue Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 3 hours ago, roversfan99 said: Looks like a player who has played some games at left back and has barely ever scored. Rudy doesnt half love a player from a relegated Belgian side if its true. It’s not like you to see the negatives in a player you know nothing about. Quote
Hasta Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago (edited) To be fair he’s played 84 times in the Belgian top flight and he’s 23 so he can’t be passed off as ‘one for the future’.  It worries me that he started the season as a starter for Kortrijk but from February on was getting subbed a lot and by the time of the 6-game relegation play-offs had been benched. So it’s not like he was one of their better or more trusted players during their relegation season. Edited 5 hours ago by Hasta Quote
DutchRover Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago His attributes seem to be fast and cheap, the latter is presumably the greater draw for Suhail/Gestede. Presumably seen as a back-up for Kargbo on left wing but hardly an inspiring target. As always, should not pass judgement until we see him play (assuming we even sign him that is). 1 Quote
roversfan99 Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 10 minutes ago, Forever Blue said: It’s not like you to see the negatives in a player you know nothing about. I didnt pass comment on him as a player. I have never heard of him. Its not like you to be focused on trying to police any perceived negativity either. We need attacking players who can help us to score goals, our attack was poor last season and that was what (on the pitch) cost us finishing higher. This guy might be a really good player, but I am just speculating as to what he is being signed to do based on the very limited information we have. He doesnt seem to score or assist many and he has often played as a left back which is possibly the only position where we have decent cover. He may be a useful potential signing if he signs but I am just wondering as to what role he is likely to take up. The comment about Gestede was purely an observation about the market he seems to be drawn towards. Although even if anyones preset reaction was negative, its hardly abnormal considering the shit we have to put up with as Rovers fans. Quote
roverblue Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago They can be in talks all they like but when they come to the bit that involves paying the club with actual money its going to be a problem. 3 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 2 hours ago, roversfan99 said: So you think aside from one off changes to our recruitment team, which seem to happen far too often but ignoring that. Changes in the recruitment team have been happening for the last 3 years with 3 head of recruitment and other changes to the scouting and analysis staff. ignoring what? 2 hours ago, roversfan99 said: You think that otherwise, there are no issues in how we are run and the timing of our transfers isnt affected by our owners and board, for example meeting well after the season ends often in India to sort the budget? we all know the issues with the ownership but if we are chasing players and looking to sign them suggest the budget has been agreed? 2 hours ago, roversfan99 said: Those 2 were also relegated from the league we are currently in, and Brittain in particular had shown that he was very capable at this level. The question is how inferior the Belgian league is, we signed Gueye who had also been relegated from that level and he has struggled. Obviously none of us know who this player is, or if he will even sign. So we dont know if he is one of the better players for his current team. The curious thing would be what type of player he is. He seems to have played a mixture of left back/wing back/left midfield, and he clearly isnt a wide man who has offered much of a goal threat. We need attacking players who can improve our attacking threat which let us down last year. On paper and on the face of it, it seems unclear whether this guy would do that. how do you know he isn't a wide man and shouldn't we wait until we see him play wide? you made similar comments on Karbgo also. 12 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: We need attacking players who can help us to score goals, our attack was poor last season and that was what (on the pitch) cost us finishing higher. This guy might be a really good player, but I am just speculating as to what he is being signed to do based on the very limited information we have. He doesnt seem to score or assist many and he has often played as a left back which is possibly the only position where we have decent cover. He may be a useful potential signing if he signs but I am just wondering as to what role he is likely to take up. what limited information do you have? Quote
Erased Citizen Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago He’s played most of his games at LB/LWB. The games he’s played further up the pitch have either been against big teams (Anderlecht, Gent) or in the relegation play offs to presumably try and tighten things up Quote
Tugayisgod Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago May be reading to much into this but Michael Nade, who Jackson thought was an alternative to Modibo Sagnan, appears to be saying goodbye to the fans on his Instagram account from what I can gather. Like I say may be putting 2 and 2 together and getting 5. Quote
RoversClitheroe Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago Sounds like another terrible player like Hedges 1 Quote
roversfan99 Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 45 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: Changes in the recruitment team have been happening for the last 3 years with 3 head of recruitment and other changes to the scouting and analysis staff. ignoring what? we all know the issues with the ownership but if we are chasing players and looking to sign them suggest the budget has been agreed? how do you know he isn't a wide man and shouldn't we wait until we see him play wide? you made similar comments on Karbgo also. what limited information do you have? Im not sure what I have said about Kargbo that is relevant. With transfers like this, ie players from abroad, its obviously an unknown but totally witholding any opinion would eliminate the point of this thread. So we can just base it on what we know, so position, standard that hes playing at, how his team has done, how regularly he has played, if hes an attacking player how many goals and assists hes got etc. On Kargbo, I raised the point that he seemingly did really well at Serie C but was often a sub in Serie B. So the question was always, is he capable of coping with the jump to Championship standard. That question hasnt been answered positively or negatively as he has barely played due to injury. On De Neve, I never said that he isnt a wide man, you've misread what I put. Based on what we know, he isn't a wide man who has scored or assisted many goals in his career, probably partly because he has often played at left back. I have no idea how good or otherwise he is, I am just speculating on what type of player he seems to be, and whether he seems to be the type of player we need or where he will fit in, if he signs. Ultimately, we have no idea if this player will even sign. Quote
roversfan99 Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 36 minutes ago, Erased Citizen said: He’s played most of his games at LB/LWB. The games he’s played further up the pitch have either been against big teams (Anderlecht, Gent) or in the relegation play offs to presumably try and tighten things up That makes any potential signing a bit more puzzling in terms of where he is likely to fit in. Quote
roversfan99 Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 3 minutes ago, RoversClitheroe said: Sounds like another terrible player like Hedges I get questioning what type of player he might be etc. I dont get how you can just flippantly come to that conclusion. Quote
M_B Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 7 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: I get questioning what type of player he might be etc. I dont get how you can just flippantly come to that conclusion. Oh, it comes easily. Quote
BankEnd Rover Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 11 minutes ago, Tugayisgod said: May be reading to much into this but Michael Nade, who Jackson thought was an alternative to Modibo Sagnan, appears to be saying goodbye to the fans on his Instagram account from what I can gather. Like I say may be putting 2 and 2 together and getting 5. I just think with our microscopic budget, a CB isn't what we should be spending on. It's easier to find decent enough freebies or even loans in that area. Our budget needs to be spent on attack.  Quote
DutchRover Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 22 minutes ago, Tugayisgod said: May be reading to much into this but Michael Nade, who Jackson thought was an alternative to Modibo Sagnan, appears to be saying goodbye to the fans on his Instagram account from what I can gather. Like I say may be putting 2 and 2 together and getting 5. Would be nice if true, and to be fair most of our signings the last few years have come without much rumour. Quote
DutchRover Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago If the links to CBs and de Neve are true, Ismael may be switching to a 3-4-3, in which case Pickering probably plays CB and we need a backup to Ribeiro as wing back Quote
chaddyrovers Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 43 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: Im not sure what I have said about Kargbo that is relevant. With transfers like this, ie players from abroad, its obviously an unknown but totally witholding any opinion would eliminate the point of this thread. So we can just base it on what we know, so position, standard that hes playing at, how his team has done, how regularly he has played, if hes an attacking player how many goals and assists hes got etc. On Kargbo, I raised the point that he seemingly did really well at Serie C but was often a sub in Serie B. So the question was always, is he capable of coping with the jump to Championship standard. That question hasnt been answered positively or negatively as he has barely played due to injury. On De Neve, I never said that he isnt a wide man, you've misread what I put. Based on what we know, he isn't a wide man who has scored or assisted many goals in his career, probably partly because he has often played at left back. I have no idea how good or otherwise he is, I am just speculating on what type of player he seems to be, and whether he seems to be the type of player we need or where he will fit in, if he signs. Ultimately, we have no idea if this player will even sign. How can you have much of any opinion of the player when none of us have seen him play live or what his best attributes are or weaknesses. Or what position he will play here. I suspect this is one of few signings we will make from the French and Belgium market. Quote
FE123 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago Ismael recruiting ready to play 3 centre halves. Left sided centre half and De Neve who will most likely play left wing back.  Certainly think wing back is Britain’s best position. I’m fairly certain we were linked with Nade a couple of years ago as well.  Quote
Erased Citizen Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 22 minutes ago, DutchRover said: If the links to CBs and de Neve are true, Ismael may be switching to a 3-4-3, in which case Pickering probably plays CB and we need a backup to Ribeiro as wing back Thats what makes the most sense positionally, otherwise its an odd addition Quote
roversfan99 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 2 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: How can you have much of any opinion of the player when none of us have seen him play live or what his best attributes are or weaknesses. Or what position he will play here. I suspect this is one of few signings we will make from the French and Belgium market. I dont have much of an opinion, I dont have any opinion on the quality of the player. I am just speculating as to where he may fit in. You are questioning me and only me as if I have said he is shit and I am appalled by his potential signing. Quote
roversfan99 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 5 minutes ago, FE123 said: Ismael recruiting ready to play 3 centre halves. Left sided centre half and De Neve who will most likely play left wing back.  Certainly think wing back is Britain’s best position. I’m fairly certain we were linked with Nade a couple of years ago as well.  How would Kargbo fit in though? A player who the club seemingly spent ages trying to sign. And also, Gestede was quoted as saying a right winger is on the list of positions he wanted to fill. Quote
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