v Ipswich Town (a) - 17/1/26

[Tomphil2]

20 minutes ago, Mike E said:

Who the FUCK forcing out managers on the verge of playoff places in favour of this shit? 

People with way too much influence and their own priorities.

[lraC]

1 hour ago, Penwortham Blue said:

Anyone know where AllRoverAsia gone, he used to be our regular contributor from downtown Bangkok ?

I used to enjoy Arbitro’s post match reviews as thought he was the most genuine of supporters and called it plainly, good or bad. Might have just missed them recently but worried that even Arbitro has had his enthusiasm driven out of him. Hopefully, he will be back on with his thoughts on the Ipswich debacle later tonight or tomorrow as he is a great barometer as to how, even the most loyal, are feeling.

I think Tony has had enough.

Just posting on here, as I think he still goes to the games, probably somewhat reluctantly.

[DavidMailsTightPerm]

A match thrown away - we were poor, but without yet more inept refereeing we may have got a result. It shows how poor the Championship is, that Ipswich could get automatic promotion - as they were no great shakes.

[Eternal Optimist]

Just now, DavidMailsTightPerm said:

A match thrown away - we were poor, but without yet more inept refereeing we may have got a result. It shows how poor the Championship is, that Ipswich could get automatic promotion - as they were no great shakes.

Would we have got a result?? Despite the extremely poor ref we didn’t muster a shot on target. Can’t blame the ref for that. Fact is Ismail needs to go, no clue, tactics are utter w**k and he can’t keep blaming the refs 

[Hasta]

2 minutes ago, DavidMailsTightPerm said:

A match thrown away - we were poor, but without yet more inept refereeing we may have got a result. It shows how poor the Championship is, that Ipswich could get automatic promotion - as they were no great shakes.

Give over. Without Toth it could have been 5.

Ifvwe had even got the penalty we may have missed it (see Hull) and then wouldn’t have had another shot on target. We were never getting anything from that after 15 mins.

[DavidMailsTightPerm]

Just now, Eternal Optimist said:

Would we have got a result?? Despite the extremely poor ref we didn’t muster a shot on target. Can’t blame the ref for that. Fact is Ismail needs to go, no clue, tactics are utter w**k and he can’t keep blaming the refs 

I think you can blame ref for not giving a clear push on Ohashi, or a clear elbow in Cantwells face.

That isnt to take blame off Ismail.

[Hasta]

Just now, DavidMailsTightPerm said:

I think you can blame ref for not giving a clear push on Ohashi, or a clear elbow in Cantwells face.

That isnt to take blame off Ismail.

And a penalty for them, or are you ignoring that?

[Penwortham Blue]

8 minutes ago, lraC said:

I think Tony has had enough.

Just posting on here, as I think he still goes to the games, probably somewhat reluctantly.

I feared that was the case and that just about says it all, Venkys Out.

[aletheia]

2 hours ago, lraC said:

That pillock, shouldn’t be washing the kits even. A total shyster. 

Right agency, aligned, Suhail's puppet and fall guy.

[roversfan99]

We wouldnt have got a result with alternative decisions. If you finish a game with 0 shots on target then its just deflection to suggest that a potential penalty at 2 nil down was a major decision.

Strange how Ismael didnt mention the more blatant stonewall penalty and probable red card with Cashin.

[Penwortham Blue]

1 minute ago, Hasta said:

And a penalty for them, or are you ignoring that?

True as well but it is sliding doors, had we converted the penalty and they were down to ten, quite possible that specific incident doesn’t happen.

[Hasta]

3 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

We wouldnt have got a result with alternative decisions. If you finish a game with 0 shots on target then its just deflection to suggest that a potential penalty at 2 nil down was a major decision.

Strange how Ismael didnt mention the more blatant stonewall penalty and probable red card with Cashin.

Definitely not a red as it was a genuine attempt for the ball. Double jeopardy and all that nowadays.

Edited 1 hour ago by Hasta

[Eternal Optimist]

3 minutes ago, DavidMailsTightPerm said:

I think you can blame ref for not giving a clear push on Ohashi, or a clear elbow in Cantwells face.

That isnt to take blame off Ismail.

I do blame the ref it was a penalty but that was 5 seconds of a 96 minute game! If you can’t get a shot on target for 95.55 minutes then you deserve to lose and there’s no one to blame other than Val and the 14 players that put the Rovers shirt on today. I’d get sacked from my job if I performed as poorly as these players have recently yet they walk home with 1000’s a week 😡

[Hasta]

3 minutes ago, Penwortham Blue said:

True as well but it is sliding doors, had we converted the penalty and they were down to ten, quite possible that specific incident doesn’t happen.

Having your cake and eating it a bit there there.

If he gives the penalty then the play changes and the elbow doesn’t happen. You can’t say event 1 happens, event 2 still happens but event 3 doesn’t.

Edited 1 hour ago by Hasta

[Penwortham Blue]

Just now, Hasta said:

Having your cake and eating it a bit there there.

If he gives the penalty then the play changes and the elbow doesn’t happen. You can’t say event 1 and event 2 happen but event 3 doesn’t.

I’m not saying that, for my money Furlong was the last defender and could have gone for the penalty incident. He could very easily have received 2 red cards in that game and yet left the pitch, without even a yellow to his name.

[Hasta]

1 minute ago, Penwortham Blue said:

I’m not saying that, for my money Furlong was the last defender and could have gone for the penalty incident. He could very easily have received 2 red cards in that game and yet left the pitch, without even a yellow to his name.

Ah. Ok, fair point.

That wasnt t what @DavidMailsTightPerm meant but in your case you are correct.

Edited 1 hour ago by Hasta

[aletheia]

17 minutes ago, DavidMailsTightPerm said:

but without yet more inept refereeing we may have got a result.

Utter dreamland.

[Bohinen1983]

1 hour ago, Tomphil2 said:

They are also both past it and been to the well too many times now plus both would cost way more than these lot would ever pay.

I don't think they are.  It's about getting the best out of what you have - experts in the field.  Managing people is more than stats and formations  It's a subtle blend that they both (Warnock/Allardyce) are exceptionally good at. We'd be lucky to have either.

[DavidMailsTightPerm]

12 minutes ago, Hasta said:

And a penalty for them, or are you ignoring that?

No - but that play wouldnt have happened if he had given earlier decisions.

[aletheia]

2 hours ago, Eternal Optimist said:

Cashin had a dreadful game he won some fair decent tackles 

And the penalty?

[Hasta]

2 minutes ago, DavidMailsTightPerm said:

No - but that play wouldnt have happened if he had given earlier decisions.

 

8 minutes ago, Hasta said:

Having your cake and eating it a bit there there.

If he gives the penalty then the play changes and the elbow doesn’t happen. You can’t say event 1 happens, event 2 still happens but event 3 doesn’t.

As I said.

[M_B]

20 minutes ago, Hasta said:

Give over. Without Toth it could have been 5.

Ifvwe had even got the penalty we may have missed it (see Hull) and then wouldn’t have had another shot on target. We were never getting anything from that after 15 mins.

Don't think the Hull example really holds water

[DavidMailsTightPerm]

Just now, Hasta said:

 

As I said.

But if he gives penalty, that player is potentially sent off (not certain of where league are with double jeopardy these days).

I think you totally miss my point though - just saying as crap as we were we could have got a result (no matter deserved or not). My point was mainly how crap the Championship is that Ipswich are in the top 6.

[davulsukur]

Obviously a lot of poor performances today. As well as Cashin, I thought The Moose was particularly dreadful today. 

[M_B]

16 minutes ago, Hasta said:

Definitely not a red as it was a genuine attempt for the ball. Double jeopardy and all that nowadays.

It was a penalty and a red card, if it went to var, that would be the outcome.