I’m angry just reading about what he has said in here. I haven’t had the stomach to actually listen to any yet. That is itself tells a story I guess.

Are you able to post what you saw at West Brom Philip?

Funny you should mention trifles in a post containing Fleck.

This is typically what is bet on the legal and illegal markets. Truly staggering. https://tribune.com.pk/story/958476/upto-one-billion-euros-bet-on-each-premier-league-match

The match screams of fixed and here is a reminder. https://www.theguardian.com/football/2012/apr/29/tottenham-hotspur-blackburn-rovers-minute-by-minute

A game that was live on TV in the UK and beyond and had millions bet on it. Shots on it off target BRFC 0 Spurs 19. I remember the post match interview from King Rat and the look on the faces of the pundits on n the studio, which was one of pure bafflement.

No wins so far and I see none out of the next 4.By then it will be too late. We panicked, chose quickly and chose a dud.

He scored PNE so can’t be right

We could do worse, but we are unlikely to sack him. He deserves it mind as the football is dire.

I said at half time, I was dreading the second half and that’s how it turned out. It was pretty obvious that the 3 at the back was not working, they had more one on ones than I can count. That proved the undoing, as the exact same move, a flick over the top, put their striker through and caused the red card. With no wins in 7 attempts now and a nailed on defeat next week, it is feeling like the point of no return to me. We are hardly going to sack the manager so quickly, but I’m afraid we picked a dud.

It’s a simple punt over the top that keeps catching us out. Eustace was supposed to have made us tighter but that’s as bad as I’ve seen us at the back this season. How we have not conceded, I will never know. Hard to believe we are 1-0 up and I’m dreading the second half.

Memory playing tricks on you. It was a Saturday afternoon match and 1-2 at half time. We had missed a first half pen too.

Best game I’ve ever seen. Truly amazing

I know people are reluctant to believe it, but it is possible for so much to have been made that pumping in millions per season, may still mean a tidy profit has been made. People are asking why the owners are carrying on regardless when they seem to be getting nothing out of it. As we know a statement has been made this very week, to say they have no plans to sell and are here for the long haul. Until is is proved otherwise my view will always be, that they are hiding something.

The terminology used in the Indian press article was illegal payments and no allegedly in there either. Illegal payments made by a company, that have had property seized and are now unable to send money overseas, without both an authority from the court and a bond, tells me and I am sure most others, that these people are simply not trusted. So, we have the football authorities, the anti corruption bodies and probably the owners accountants, who are surely aware of this, sitting back and doing nothing. When the proverbial hits they fan, I hope they all stand up and take notice.

A chorus of Ole, as we pass it around at the back V Plymouth at 0-0 in a he 89th minute. The manager has already stated it isn’t a must win, so we will be happy with a draw or a defeat then.

If they got 20/1 though it won’t matter so long as the stakes were high enough.

Imagine that. A manager who is trying to get sacked and owners who have a penchant for a bit of a flutter allegedly. What a combination and recipe for disaster that is. Does anyone realise that we were around 20/1 to go down in December.

Is that true? Do we know how much he paid? So we had a manager in situ who was trying his best to get sacked? Only at Ewood.

Staggering figures that and must surely make most sense of what is happening. Is it a pure coincidence, that the amount you have mentioned was 12 years ago?

Just for a bit of fun, I had a look at what is currently available as a bet for things other than the result of a game. One area that is particularly interesting is the shots on target market for a team and pasted immediately below (following 2 paragraphs) is taken off a website There are different ways in which bettors can bet on ‘shots on target’. Markets are offered on individual players’ shots on target, such as Harry Kane to have 3+ shots on target during a game, or more, or less; the higher the shots, the higher the odds. Markets are also offered on the number of shots on target for either team or the total shots on target in the match. For example, how many shots would Arsenal have in their clash with Chelsea, or how many shots Chelsea would have, or how many both sides would have combined. Bettors can even delve deeper by staking money on how many shots will happen in each half. I suspect that the premier league is of more interest than most when it comes to this particular area of gambling, given how it attracts a world wide audience. Imagine if an illegal market was available and the "rules" were that this market had to be a top division such as the premier league. A syndicate of punters made a real killing one season and the loser was looking to make their money back. If a team involved in some of those games, could somehow avoid staying out of that league, that may be a way of avoiding that from happening. Given the link below suggest that the Asian markets are pretty hefty, it would not be beyond all realms to think that the owners of a football club, could very easily been drawn into such activity. Daily Asia Gaming eBrief: The Illegal Betting Market: A Growing Concern in China, Indonesia, Malaysia, Philippines, and Thailand | AGB (agbrief.com)

There is very little doubt about that. As we know, we had sneaky agents, who needed paying for things like transfers and finding a buyer and maybe there was some commission to pay for Western Unions laundry bill. A nice little scheme all round for those in the know. A little bit like knowing the result of a game before kick off, or at least how many shots on target a particular team could muster.

I suppose I could have been a bit more cutting and suggested completely baffling.

If they are stopped from funding at all, the club will quickly go into administration. The expenditure at the minute (some of it a touch mysterious) is so high that the £20m hole will need filling somehow. It seems that the Adam Wharton money has gone already, so we would not be very far off, if next week goes against them and they are indeed banned from sending any further funds. I am sure the accountants will be looking closely, as they know the business is trading in an insolvent manner.

I am still convinced there is more to this than meets the eye. Why are they being forced to put a bond up to the tune of the same amount, they are sending. There is very little trust there and if they are getting under the skin of the equivalent of HMRC in the UK there are serious issues there in my opinion.