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General thoughts. Not sure where we go from here. Squad has so many weaknesses and very few strengths. Not much to build on. The squad needs dismantling and rebuilding. Without that we’ll go backwards. It’s a big job. We simply have to become much harder to beat, we have such a soft centre it’s untrue. Don’t like saying it, but we need to start looking at how Burnley got out of this league. It was by being very professional, by having solid pro’s. By having a manager who was consistent with his players and his tactics. Don’t forget, if you don’t go forwards you’ll go backwards - that IMO (again) is where we are at. Is Mowbray the man to bring that mindset to the club? I don’t think so. I see very little of what’s needed to be a force in this league.

Yeah, that’s what I mean. Bolton won’t fulfil all their fixtures, they won’t complete their season. It can’t get any more serious than that, can it?

Expulsion from the league?

What has happened previously to any club that couldn’t fulfil their fixtures? Surely it means more than a points deduction. This has to be very, very serious.

We have no reason to believe him Tom.

I think I have to agree Mellor. He just has to be the best footballer ever seen.

Just in case anyone missed it, this is Messi’s 600th goal for Barcelona. “Special” doesn’t do it justice.

Dack needs to reassess what he’s trying to do on a football field IMO. He’s not finding the spaces he did previously and the best way to do that is to get back to the simple midfielders game of get yourself into a space, recieve the ball and lay it off early. Even Messi does that probably more often than we think. Do that for 90% of the game and defenders will give you the room. The first thing that seems to be in his mind is to turn and run with the ball, but if that’s what you’re going to base your game around then defenders will find it easier. save the dribbling and running at people until there’s really something opening up in front of you. Don’t be so stereotyped in your play.

Didn’t see any more from Brereton on Saturday than I did the first time I saw him. I just don’t understand what people see in him.

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Went to an ashes test at Edgebaston a couple of years ago. Beautiful ground IMO.

I agree Matty. There’s no continuity of the stands and the point and other red stands look like they were brought in from another ground somewhere. I’m not a fan of overhanging two tier stands either - who wants to sit in darkness all day long? Not to mention the monstrosity that is the temporary stand. I find a lack of atmosphere at Old Trafford nowadays.

Over £2m profit for Lancs despite not having a test match. Got to wonder what they’ll do with it. https://cricket.lancashirecricket.co.uk/news/2019-news/lancashire-cricket-club-maintain-growth-in-operating-profits/

Alan Shearer should know that just because the ball touches an arm, doesn’t mean it’s illegal.

Don’t need to add anything to what’s already been said. Well done everybody. From a different angle - what exactly did hiding the Derby fans in the upper tier achieve? For me, nothing. It detracted from the atmosphere and the game. What’s the point in that?

Yes Parson, a player who lasted in the memory. He could be the match winner. Like most, I too remember the screamer he scored at Deepdale. A classy midfielder, a popular player. Very sad to hear this news.

Sad to hear Barrie Hole passed away aged 76. https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/sadness-barrie-hole-former-cardiff-16055090

They’re not all dead are they? ?

Driving dun? ?

What a good footballer Danny Graham is. Sorry Rev, but he certainly has a touch of class about him. Comfortable at at the end but for quite a while both teams looked dearth of confidence. No complaints tonight, but it certainly helped us a lot playing against a Wigan side that had no resemblance to the Wigan sides of the last few seasons.

Seems to me that Mowbray has simply failed to move the playing squad forwards in any way whatsoever since promotion. Given the financial backing he’s had and the size of the club relative to the league we are playing in - that really isn’t good enough. Next season is already a worry because of our two best players Graham will be another year older and Dack might not be here. There is a lot of truth in the saying that if you stop going forwards as a club, you go backwards. Would any of you guys want to start next season with Mowbray in charge? Given how bad things are results wise, how he’s reverted to humiliating players in public I would say move on.

At a time when violence at football grounds seems to be declining, north end do seem to have a minority of pretty nasty fans. They’ve been around for a few seasons now. They never used to have - or I don’t remember them having this problem. Its something the club itself should be looking at and taking responsibility for.

Never a foul.

I’m not happy, no. Just wish we’d beat this lot anyway at all. It’s embarrassing how easy it is to score against us.