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@booth I don’t disagree with most of that, but all it tells us is that there are other faults other than JDT. However JDT is a very stubborn, one-dimensional manager and he is currently being found out by a lot of the other managers in the league. On the individual match day thread, that shocking performance is down to him. The bigger picture I agree is elsewhere. I doubt anyone believes with the squad we had available today man for man, we should be getting battered at Rotherham .

They’re getting promoted at Ewood aren’t they? 😫

Players blasted off the pitch with “You’re not fit to wear the shirt”.

I’d have accepted 10th but I wanted better. But for me the bigger picture is we are regressing as we are getting found out tactically and, more worrying, by effort and desire. We had conceded less goals and had a plus 14 goal difference under Mowbray at this point last year so i’m not sure we are more resilient. I don’t want JDT out, but I’m getting very worried as I’m failing to see his good points.

Depends on what you think of what you are watching. Some of the decisions we have made in games (both line ups and tactics) have cost us points. From where we were before the Burnley game then no, I don’t think 10th is a good return. I think a good manager would adapted and have us finishing higher up the table. There will be teams above us by the end who on paper are not necessarily better than we are, and we have got ourselves into a position to have a significant lead over them. I doubt we would be bottom by next Christmas. That Is negative. This league is pretty poor.

Not yet as I don’t think you can do that until he has had a full window. But that defeat has told me that we are not heading in the right direction. We’ve been sussed out now and he currently has no answer. He’s stubborn and unable to adapt to situations (hence the stat of never equalising when going behind). I’m not seeing a whole lot of positives from him at the moment other than early season form which had us riding high in a bad season. We are 7 points behind where we were after 27 games last season, and we would have been 8th last year on this points total. I predict we will meander to about 10th this season. We will lose Brereton, have a window which is average, play the same way next year but as his gameplan has been sussed we will be bottom half by Christmas. Im slowly calming down after that earlier.

Our most embarrassing defeat I can remember since Oldham away in league one. Smell the coffee lads.

A number of times in that first half we had the ball out wide running at their full back. Gallagher and Pickering did it. JRC and Dack had the full back isolated. We got into good positions but failed to capitalise. That’s what happens when you play strikers in ‘wide’ roles. Brereton can carry the ball so carries far more of a threat in those positions. Having lost Brereton, we knew we had little threat going forward. And yet we played Gallagher out wide instead of Markanday who has looked lively for weeks. When it wasn’t working, we came out again and carried on. So what we could have done is actually start Dolan or Markanday in a position that suits instead of playing Gallagher somewhere he has consistently been ineffective. It looked wrong at kick off. It was proved wrong in the first half but it wasn’t changed until game over. Markanday showed in the second half what might have been when they were exposed in that first half. Stubborn. Stupid.

Lack of quality is a big issue. But lack of quality doesn’t put that starting side out, stick with it until the game is lost and force us to play pretty pointless passes to the detriment of our performance.

I describe getting hammered as losing 4-0, and in the second half hardly touching the ball in their box, having just a solitary shot to their 5 and losing the half 3-0. Is that not the game you watched?

And yet we played until 2-0:down and game over without any of them on the pitch. We would scored in that first half with Brereton on the pitch and that would have been a different game. As people have said, we will be screwed without him atm.

I’ve amended my post before you quoted. I think that’s even worse than Preston. At least Preston are a decent championship team.

That’s worse than Preston at home. The most embarrassing performance I can remember for a long, long time.

Wait for the 2nd half of this season. Leaving that same XI on for the second half is criminal.

Markanday is the only glimmer here. I’d struggle to give anyone more than 3 in the player ratings.

Because tracking back has helped us in this game hasn’t it.

Piss poor. Id hate to pick a MOTM for rovers here. Markanday maybe?

Credit to their manager. Most of the first half was played in their half. He’s pushed us right back into our half here.

He’s owned our two in midfield.

Why not? What good has it done us so far?

Dolan for Gallagher and I don’t think we will lose this strangely.

Where is Grant Hanley when you need him?

Don’t forget we’ve never even equalised when we have gone behind, let alone got anything.

What Gally wouldn’t have missed? You sure? Did you not see that header against Cardiff. Regardless it’s unlikely Gally would have the movement to get there. Shit miss from Dack, but as he’s actually done something decent in the last few games he’s got a bit of credit in the bank.

I can. Quite easily.