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I said "Stop quoting Mowbray to validate your opinion because ...... ". I never said you couldn't quote Mowbray or anyone else when you wanted to did I? However you reply as though you think I am being unfair, or bullying, or picking on you etc... Which I clearly wasn't.

Chaddy stop quoting Mowbray to validate your opinion as he obviously isn't going to come out with something negative about Brereton. He's hardly going to come out and say "I'm disappointed with what he has shown so far" When Brereton has played this season, he has been played out of position and has generally not looked very good. That is an opinion which most people hold. He may have shown the odd flash of ability but generally he has been pretty poor regardless of whether he cost £7mill or was free. He may well start up front in the next few games, look brilliant and progress to become a legend. We all hope he does. We know he has been bought for potential. However, all people are saying is at the moment that £7million has been wasted on what he has shown so far. Some people seem to think voicing that opinion on a message board is a sin against the club.

Seems odd that we buy a striker who we don't trust to play up front unless we are losing. How hard is it to be fit enough to close players down from the front. Where did he come on and play against Sheff United ? (genuinely don't know as I missed that game?)

A lot of talk about price tags and Mowbrays comments, Forest fans opinions and other clubs chasing him etc... over the last 24 hours on this thread. The fact remains he hasn't looked good in any appearance playing out wide, whether he cost £7million or £70k. Football is littered with 19 year olds who make a name for themselves. I'm not expecting him to beat every man and win games on his own (As TM implies). I am expecting him, at 19 years old, to be able to come on for 30 minutes in his preferred position and give a generally good performance. It's baffling why we haven't seen him tried in that position.

Not many of those type of quality of Graham about. Could you name anyone?  Rudy.

Did we not officially open the Liberty Stadium as Swansea's "Glamour Friendly" in the summer of 2005? Or have I imagined that?

Not seen this mentioned on here. Came across it whilst looking if Preston tickets had been announced yet. Firework display after the QPR game taking place from behind the Riverside stand. Season ticket holders can move to JW stand for the match and for a better view free of charge. All other Riversides will be moved into the DE lower after the game if they want to see the display. Should also get a good view from The Fox or The Fernhurst after the game. https://www.rovers.co.uk/news/2018/october/celebrate-rovers-birthday-with-football-and-fireworks/

Lol. That's unfair but your posts on my fictional 'narrative' was fair ?

That's more truthful from you, but inaccurate as far as I am concerned. I'm the first to judge players after seeing what they do on a pitch. Look at my u-turn on the Downing signing last season - so much so I started a thread on opinions you had got wrong based on it. I supported Jason Roberts when other just criticised and even saw the good in Blake despite the criticism he received. I'd like to think I'm fully capable of judging players on what they do on the pitch, regardless of what they cost, who they sleep with, what parties they attend and what their wife says on twitter. My opinion on Brereton so far is posted clearly above, but be rest assured I'll be the first to praise him when he shows his ability. There may well be people who never warm to him because of the price tag but I'm not one of them. There will also be those people who talk up his contributions in games as they can't be seen to accept Mowbray may have overspent on a limited player.

That's my opinion. It's not a narrative. By narrative you are impling my opinion is being given to suit another agenda or story.

Firstly you can't say it was untrue as it's an opinion, and one shared by a number of people. I want Brereton to do well and I want him to score bagful of goals and be worth tons of money. However I feel we overpaid for what he has done so far in his career, and that he may well prove to be a decent striker and a goal scorer but he isn't a winger. Some people think he might have done OK yesterday as he worked hard and didn't lose the ball every time. That may well be an improvement on his previous appearances. However he didn't really do anything and Palmer / Rothwell / Travis could have been more suited for what he was asked to do. Whether he is worth the money, time will tell, and we need to see what he can do in his preferred position. But, so far, he has been generally poor when used out of position , and as we have paid our biggest outlay in years on him, it's bound to draw attention. I don't think any of that is unfair or negative. Just my honest appraisal of the situation.

Opinion is split obviously about yesterday. Could you explain what you think my narrative on BB is?

Who was the guy at right back who Armstrong kept going passed again and again in the first half. He couldn't judge the flight of the ball at all. I presume he was one of the ones who was only in due to injuries?

So instead of playing him in his proposer position, where he might have a bad game, he's playing him out of position where he is definitely having bad games. Therefore the fan base are unfairly thinking he's not worth the money in what he has shown. Strange logic of that really is TM's thinking.

No. I just see the contradiction between your views now and what you said then..

I thought Bennet, Lenihan, Mulgrew and Evans were all immense. DG and Dack weren't at their best which make the win even more impressive. Would still prefer Williams over Bell but that's nit-picking. Leeds fans were very vocal going to the game. Enjoyed the walk back down branch road after the game much better.

Stupid but to-be-expected superfan propaganda from you on the back of a good result. Almost as though you forget that you said you wouldn't go if Coyle was appointed.

I thought he was a fish out of water again today on the wing.

The only real issues I have seen with Leeds fans during the 90s onwards was getting a chasing for no reason at Elland Rd at Easter 93 (lost 5-2, Strachan and Chapman ran the show) And then in and outside the Darwen End after Shearer scored the last minute winner in the Matt Busby minutes silence game in 94. To be fair very little over the years for a club with Leeds reputation.

If I, who comes on This board a lot and follows Rovers news in other media, doesn't know why Waggot said the surcharge is in place, what chance has the casual walk-on of understanding why they are getting fleeced £3. Im guessing it's staff costs. A well know pub in the area used to (may still) put the prices up on match day asthey has to bring in more staff to deal with more customers. But in reality they were bringing in more staff as they were selling more beer. Therefore the added sales should have covered the staff wages.

Start giving fouls when the defender blatantly obstructs and pushes the striker when the defender is 'shielding' the ball to go out for a goal kick. They can get away with anything in that situation but as they feel a touch from a striker they go down and always get a free kick

My dad did this for the last 15 years. Decide at 2pm. Just because you don't, it doesn't mean everyone else doesn't. Also, if there was a weekend only season ticket, I'd possibly opt for that instead of a full season ticket. You may get more on at the weekend with that season ticket but you could lose the same amount of home fans from midweek games. I don't think it's the right idea but it is the kind of different thinking which we should be looking at.

If the Leeds game kicked off at 3pm on Saturday, was £15 a ticket, wasnt on tv and the price was well publicised, you'd get an extra 2000 home fans on. People, talk about the spirit and connection between the team and the manager but that is between the existing attending fans and the players. You need to get people back in to Ewood and connecting with the team again. You need to break their habit of not attending anymore. Therefore you need to do special prices for the bigger and better games. Doing price promotions for the likes of QPR and Rotherham midweek isn't going to appeal to fans to 'break the habit' and return. My brother, who generally only attends when one of our group can't make it, would probably have come down on Saturday as an extra but it's £30 and on the box. There will be many, many others.

I'm a social season ticket holder. I go to the game and meet mates I only see once a fortnight and then spend 2 or 3 hours in the pub with them after the game. I don't see the red button stopping that. There are several games I go to a year where my mates can't make it and I'm on my own.I go to those as it's the only way to see them game and I'm interested. Had they been on tv I may well stop home and watch. Therefore the warning bells should be there. Its more likely season tickets pushing the £400 barrier, or missing a significant amount of games because it's midweek or unsociable kick off times, that will stop me renewing.

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