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Camera is all over the place.

Would absolutely love for that to be the case. I’d be stunned if we go up but yep - would love it.

He’s more of a centre midfielder isn’t he? Think that’s where he plays for Napoli - it’s Insigne, Lozano, Mertens etc in the forward positions for them - although not sure where he played last night. In any case, I think it’ll be at least a couple more years yet until Elliott is knocking on the door at Liverpool. After us I wouldn’t be surprised if he goes out on loan again, maybe to a Premier League team if he has a good year with us, which it looks like he will.

^ Crikey, Berner, Rigters and Keith Treacy? No wonder we lost. Shame as that turned out to be our final cup match under Hughes. The squads we had from 05-08 were definitely good enough to win something - unfortunately we just couldn't get past teams from the 'big four', as they were then, when facing them in semi finals.

Indeed, not many teams have conceded more than us, I don’t think. Must be rare that a team with such good attacking stats is down in 12th so we need to sort that out and make the most of having a lot of goals in us. Just hope we don’t end up looking back at this season in a few years, say with Armstrong as the league’s top scorer and Rovers with the most goals, and thinking we should have done more. A bit like the season where Rhodes and Gestede both hit 20+.

Team with the most goals, best goal difference and top goalscorer in the league but down in 12th, crazy.

I remember watching Fowler doing shooting practice before a match he started at Bolton for us under Ince. His finishes were all inch perfect, right in the corner etc, exactly where he wanted to put them. Very impressive. Unfortunately once the game started he looked like he was rooted to the ground.

My bad, hadn't realised.

I watched him against Milan a couple of weeks ago and he looked like a fish out of water. I did think he'd do well up there, but certainly happy to see that the fans are on to him ? Wonder if his dad will be on social media this time slagging Celtic off?

Only four points above Wycombe....

De Pedro underneath Yelldell?

Great idea! I think I can get most of the recent ones too (just a couple I’m not sure on) but I’ll have a do at a couple of older ones: Second one Hakan Unsal, third one Dario Marcolin?

Only Wycombe and Coventry have conceded more than us. Poor. Speaking of Wycombe, well done to them for holding the mighty Watford and their £30m players ?

Shambles. Good job we won the passing at Watford.....

Skybet pull your finger out, already missed two goals!

Considering Chaddy’s opinion on Coyle swung from week to week depending on results (well, more month to month considering how rarely we got a good result under him), I can’t imagine him not accepting an excellent manager in Dyche if by some miracle he ended up here.

Can you post a screenshot of Vale’s attributes? I know they’re slightly different to the attributes on the PC version, but still, I got about 7/8 seasons in on FM 20 and whenever I’m not managing Rovers I still keep a close eye on them. And I don’t think Vale’s stats were great from what I recall, although he did make it into the first team I think after a few years.

‘They’ve blown it’ I think I recall....

'They could have saved us'? You make it sound like we were up against it big time and despite Venky's best efforts, we fell to an inevitable relegation. Madness. Only one thing caused our decline and that's them. Our 'road to hell' in the five seasons before they rocked up: 6th (+ League Cup semi), 10th (+ FA Cup semi and Europa League knockout stages), 7th, 15th, 10th (+ League Cup semi). We were in zero danger and, as you mention by referencing Hughes, fans were looking up rather than down.

That’s the thing now. I do agree it’s been a good window based on what we’ve seen so far from our new signings, plus the reputation of those we’re going to be signing. So after a window of strengthening, Mowbray being allowed to keep who he wants (as he’s always been able to do) and two previous years of ‘stability’ - expectation has to be high.

Newcastle would have played there against Spurs wouldn't they? I am actually glad that our first match there wasn't against Spurs. At least when we do eventually play there it'll be a bigger occasion such as a cup final, FA Cup semi or a play-off final.

I still can't believe we haven't played at the new Wembley yet. Think there are only a handful of teams in the whole Football League that still haven't played there.

Indeed. In fact I've generally found that Football Manager players know their stuff when it comes to football. People brought up on nothing but Fifa, however, can be a different story at times

Or - like most of us (clearly not everyone though...) - he just wants his club to be the best it possibly can on and off the pitch. Which includes the stadium (the face of the club) not looking like a tip.

? I know, I should be able to see what he's 'trying to do' with his slow build. That said I never went on a run of 9 defeats in 11, plus I did get in the play-offs a couple of times before eventually going up, so Mogga's got some way to go to match me yet ?