Obviously disappointing that at 0-0 Mowbray was planning to bring on Evans. Suggests he would have been happy with a home draw despite our horrific recent run of form. Unacceptable. With that said his decision to bring on Buckley instead paid off, so yes, credit to him for that. He's at his best when forced into making decisions either through injury, suspension or other circumstances beyond his control. His achilles heel as a manager has always been his tendency to overthink and it's rare that his forward-thinking planning comes off. He has a better success rate with decisions made at short notice, but obviously that will never get us anywhere long-term.

Doesn't change anything for me in regards to how I feel about Mowbray, but I think it's clear the players are still with him.

Feel like I've entered the twilight zone. Our shocking record of failing to come from behind in the league to win is finally over!

AHH, the classic Ewood HT 0-0. Like an old pair of slippers. Tony will be buzzing.

Yep...

Yeah, but if you remember a few weeks ago Jones basically came out in an interview after a loss and said he was done. I think it was after Huddersfield beat them. Literally everyone expected Jones to be gone after that, but he inexplicably stayed on whilst the club remained absolutely silent. I have to assume that they began their managerial search then. Jones was completely resigned to leaving at that point. It was a matter of when the trigger was pulled rather than if. Funnily enough since then results for them have actually improved a little, but I think the decision had already been made to replace Jones, so it didn't matter.

Completely agree. Whenever I see stability mentioned in regards to Mowbray I can't help but disagree - we are not in a stable situation right now. We have a chronically underfunded defence which is our achilles' heel time and time again. We sold a goalkeeper we had trained from the academy and replaced him with a loanee of the same age who is at best no better and at worst a significant downgrade. We have blown £12m on two strikers who don't score regularly (or even play in Brereton's case). Many of our bright young talents are failing to click in the first team and either ending up back in the u23's or relegated to the bench. Our captain is shoehorned into the side no matter what, despite there being better options in every position he can play. Our best striker is being forced into retirement despite his replacements failing to impress. Forgetting the squad imbalance we keep going into these tailspins under Mowbray and that is simply not sustainable long-term. This is the third severe nosedive in form since the beginning of the 18/19 season, and each time we look less and less like pulling ourselves up out of it. Eventually we just won't recover and will end up sinking out of the division. If we fail to win either of our next two matches we go into the international break with a maximum of 4 points out of 24 and most likely rock bottom of the form table. If managerial change doesn't happen soon then I fear our league position will soon reflect our position in the form table. After nearly 3 years of Mowbray's management I don't see a silver lining. He's too stubborn and clouded in his views to change, as proven by his tendency to make the exact same mistakes at every job he's been at for the past decade or so. I don't think TM is capable of change and more importantly I don't think he's willing to change. I don't think he sees himself as the problem, so somebody else needs to recognise that and take action before we end up back where we started, with Mowbray's legacy in tatters.

I don't think he really wants to be bringing up Villa, as the only reason they went on that run of form was because they changed manager. He conveniently omits that detail.

I would assume they've spent the past few weeks searching out a replacement. The timing of the sacking on a Friday is a little bit strange, but I'd be surprised if they don't have someone lined up and ready to come in by Monday.

It feels like he hasn't really grasped the seriousness of the situation yet. He thinks it'll be like last season and we'll suddenly start picking up wins after going through a rough patch. I'm not convinced, and I think if we fail to win before the international break Mowbray may start to realise that we're in big trouble.

So apparently a significant amount of WWE talent have been kept in SA and aren't being allowed to fly home. Meltzer on Twitter: "Some notes since nobody can say anything. WWE had a problem in Saudi Arabia. Talent was not allowed to leave on their flight and most are still there. 20 people, 12 of which were talent, have left but the rest are still there." PWInsider: "the majority of those delayed leaving Saudi Arabia for tonight's Smackdown taping will not make the taping and are now at hotels in Riyadh. We are told there is no word yet when they are now leaving to return to the United States" Sean Ross Sapp on Twitter: "There were rumors among talent that Vince McMahon got in some kind of disagreement in Saudi Arabia, though I haven't been able to fully confirm that."

AEW: 749,000, NXT: 580,000. The numbers look bad however there is a huge mitigating factor in game 7 of the world series being broadcast on the same night and getting a monster 23m viewers. Numbers should theoretically go back up for both shows now that the world series has ended. If they don't then that's obviously a worry.

LT has been a propaganda comic for a while now hasn't it?

No quotes, no sources, no crediblity.

yeah, because there's so many fans who are desperate for the club to remain poor, in debt and uncompetitive! Redundant writing at its finest.

Quality posts like that are why I'll always prefer forums to facebook or twitter!

For the record calling your post "waffle" was unacceptable. The only reason I didn't hide it was because by the time I saw it there had already been some proper discussion generated from it and I didn't want to have to hide it all. Nothing wrong with your posts at all mate so keep going.

Far more likely to go ten without a win. We're already over half way there.

Goddamn. Smackdown was on FS1 this week but still only posted 888,000 viewers - that's legitimately terrible. They were expecting a drop, but not that bad. They actually drew less viewers than AEW. I mean, the show is pretty awful so it's not a surprise in that sense, but to lose roughly 1.6m viewers is incredible.

Yep Turner are going in pretty hard with the advertising for AEW. Even ITV have been advertising it during the Rugby half time breaks. I liked the look and demeanour of Lee. He's definitely got charisma and for a big man seems to have quite a varied and interesting moveset. He'd be wasted on the main roster (think Big E before the New Day happened) but there's plenty of room for him to shine in NXT.

Yeah indeed, thread is here: His sources at the club obviously aren't that good!

Didn't that story turn out to be false ?? Or am I thinking of the other one? I know the Sun ran two Bowyer sacking stories, one which they got wrong at the end of August and another after he actually was sacked.

If he is then I really don't want to know what the question is

If we fail to win our next two matches before the international break then that will be 8 games without a win. Even if we draw both matches our return would be a pathetic 4 points out of 24, and if we lose both then it'll be 2 points out of 24. Even a win and a draw would only be 6 points out of 24, and that's optimistic! I'm really tired of watching us go through these nosedives under Mowbray. I've said before that one day we won't be able to pull ourselves up out of it and it feels like we might be there this time. The Huddersfield match could have been the point where we pulled ourselves up but we threw two points away. Yesterday again, but this time we threw the entire lot away. Confidence must be rock bottom in the camp at this point and TM's increasingly withdrawn demeanour on the touchline suggests he knows this time it might be terminal. If we fail to register any wins before the international break he really should walk - although I very much doubt he will. If we do go down this season then every good thing he's done here will essentially be erased. We'll be right back to square one and this time I think most of our better players (Dack, Graham, Mulgrew, Lenihan, Holtby, Rothwell, Travis) will be out of here leaving us in a significantly worse position than we were the first time we dropped into L1.

I'm sure they and every other club in the division would love us to keep Mowbray on for as long as possible.