Bohinen1983

What a bad, bad side Sunderland are! I didn't see us winning another game this season, thanks for the easiest 3 points of the season..

Draw at best. A few seasons ago we had Dack, Rothwell, Khadra, Arma, Brereton You've got Brittain- all style, no substance. He's physically not a scratch on Nyambe, should have had a penalty against us for the stupid shirt pull against Ipswich.. Bell is off playing regular football in the Premier League- I don't mind Pickering though to be fair. Hyam, who looked good last season looks like his legs have gone this year- massive step down from Lenihan, who incidentally I didn't rate that highly.. Fortunately Carter has grown and Wharton is looking decent again.. Rothwell has not been replaced- Rovers fans crack me up saying he was wank- best ball carrying midfielder in the division easily- you're now shoe-horning JRC, a great inverted full back, into his position .. We've no creativity, guile, pace or skill in the side at all, other than Szmodic. Carter, Wharton, Szmodic.. The rest are league one players. You can't lose: Armstrong, Brereton, Rothwell, Wharton, Dack, & Graham and not replace them. Then you've the problem of loans papering over the cracks- Khadra, Van Hecke etc were brilliant loans. Then this is compounded by letting good players go and replacing them with shite: Hyam, Brittain, Wahlsted.. Then you've let the experienced heads of your Bradley Johnsons, Bennetts, Evans, all who had an affinity with the club leave and not replaced them either. You're left with a bunch of shit loans, youth players and substandard crap- we're an awful side and it's all down to the lack of reinvestment that's been going on for years.

Palace fans are waxing lyrical on their forum over Wharton.. I do hope we've got some decent add-ons but very much doubt it.

I wonder whether 4-1-2-1-2 might work: Pears Pickering Brittain Hyam New Lad Trondstadt Buckley Ayari Szmodic Gallagher Dolan Have one of the forwards providing width down the side we're attacking with the other more central.. Could also play more direct with two strikers- loose balls to Szmodics.

Rather Damien Johnson get a go or a Warnock/Hughes given a go. This guy's fucking dreadful. Easiest run of games of the season. We're going down.

I thought we'd go down last season.. JDT defied the odds, whilst having more than an ample slice of luck. Our XG was disgusting, we were a complete fluke.. When you remove Kaminski, Brereton, Ayala, Travis out the mix we're gonners. Anyone that thinks a side that's lost the following and not reinvested, then sold key players from within that have stepped are delusional.. Kaminski Nyambe Lenihan Ayala Bell Rothwell Wharton Brereton Armstrong Contrast the quality there with the shite we have left and it all becomes clear.. BAAAAAAD side. I'd be shocked if we stayed up. Eustace has come in his new manager bounce has been what? When Coyle was here we put a good show on against Utd at home in the FA cup- still went down and we had much more quality then than we do now.. In deep shit, I fear for the club if we go down this season. Shocking state of affairs but it was long on the cards.

Whilst nobody shamed themselve against Newcastles expensive assembled misfits these stuck out to me: Wharton was outstanding! Pears outstanding! Buckley has come back a new player, pressing and busting a gut- we'd be fucked without him Really impressed with Ayari. He's got some real bite and aggression. If he keeps that up I'd try and sign him- put a sell on fee on top of a modest transfer. That Liverpool lad looks really handy- an absolute unit. Brittain, Sigurdsson and Garrett I feel can do better...

Good shout that.: Trondstadt Sigurdsson Buckley Szomdic Dolan Gallagher Like a 4-1-2-1-2 When attacking you could have the forward on the active side move wide to act as a wide forward, opposite comes over, Szmodic joins the attack with Siggurdson suporting. Imagine we'd get absolutely battered when defending though. Poor side,

There's been some ludicrous decision- selling Raya for what we did being just one! Does anyone know what our net spend since Venkys is vs net incomings? Off the top of my head we've bombed out some decent players.. P.Jones: 20m Samba: 10m Hanley: 5m Wharton: 18m Raya: 3m Armstrong: 15m (?) The only transfers of note that jump out to me are Brereton and Gallagher.. Surely we've made more from selling then we've spent over the past decade? Would love to see what the wage bill was and what is now too..

Always though that Wharton lacked the engine and pace to be a top player- could be wrong. He has such a lazy demeanour though, there's absolutely no urgency in anything he does. Drives me mad. Whilst I enjoyed seeing him in a Rovers shirt if I was looking at centre mids he'd def not tick enough boxes to spend £22 million on.

My issue with Buckley is his workrate. He remind me a lot of Wharton, strolls around the pitch- always thought he just needs a rocket up his arse. But technically he's good, quite creative, can tackle and intercept and more often than not is in the right place at the right time so is quite involved in games. Garrett is very aggressive and does have something about him for sure but often goes missing/isn't heavily involved for long periods. I think this is down to a lack of positional awareness. I'd have said Trondstadt, Buckley, Travis would have been reasonable enough, Trondstadt, Buckley, Garrett to me, looks like a car crash. Especially coupled with lack of a genuine target man pace out wide.

Dreadful football, dreadful side. Feel like this is the perfect storm to see us go down... Amazing, selling your best players and not replacing them.. Who'd have thought! I'd be more shocked if we stayed up. Shocking side. Kaminski, Bell, Nyambe, Lenihan, Ayala, Rothwell, Travis, Wharton, Brereton, Armstrong.. We've not adequately replaced a single one of those. Wonderful stuff!

Awful disjointed performance. Absolutely no foot-hold on the game. Going down.

Are we on Rovers TV today? Clicked streaming options and it's still showing Birmingham for £10

Still gutted about JDT leaving and after yesterday feel like we've lost our identity.. Always positive, always playing the right way.. Hampered massively by injuries, inheriting a depleted squad from Mogga before having the remaining jewels sold off from under him.. I can't get behind this shit, it's grim, club feels like a hollowed out shell. Eustace has only been here a few days and we've reverted to I don't know what.. Dark days!

Now we look like a side without any identity at all... Dreadful stuff. Sure, go long at times but, Jesus! Come on, we're capable of playing it out too. From one extreme to the other. Really disjointed, disappointing half of football. Play it out from the back, draw the buggers in then hit them.

Rothwell is a gem, Premier League player- ruined his career leaving United when he did..

Just seen this on a Rovers Facebook group..

I sincerely expected last season to be like this.. The only difference is we had a top keeper. Our XG and predicted position was dreadful. We were winning games we shouldn't. Remove Breo, Travis, Kaminski out of the equation and you're in trouble. That's before you consider what losing both Dack and Breo, Travis and Buckley would have on the dressing room. A decimated squad has been further decimated.

You can't expect a team full of loanees to fight their way out of it- they're all buggering off to their respective clubs soon anyway. Travis, Buckley, Wharton. There you go. Instead we've got a midfield full of lightweight kids that have little, if any, affinity to the club. Madness. Why couldn't Tronsdadt play deep with Travis box to box then that new lad from Brighton looks quite handy?...

Is he expected to???

They're shite. I want us to use some of that cash to reinvest and improve the squad. The current bunch are doing nothing but sending us down

Finnernan? We going to be starting a 15 year old next week?

I don't disagree that they put a shift in, but that can't be the only qualifying criteria for our centre midfielders. Neither have pace. Neither can carry a ball. Neither are particularly creative. If we don't bring in at least two quality centre midfielders I'd not bet against us going down. Crazy. A season in which we've seen: Buckley, Travis, Breo, Wharton and potentially Gallagher walk out the club and brought in.. Trondstadt (Who I really rate) and a load of lightweight, cheap loans.. you're asking for trouble. From a midfield of academy graduates that had an affinity with the club and fans in Travis, Bucko and Wharton to a midfield packed with lightweight, non-descript loanees- you're asking for trouble. What a dreadful strategy.

So we've got one senior centre midfielder in Trondstadt. An inconsistent lightweight loanee in Moran, Ayari, another loanee that couldn't get in Coventry's side and Garrett.. Jesus Christ! Absolutely awful. How anyone can look at that be happy is beyond me. Dreadful! Dreadful! Dreadful! Essentially we own two centre midfielders: Trondstadt and Garrett- one is a very decent player, the other has limited potential. How bringing in quality in the middle cannot be an absolute priority is beyond comprehension. I give up.