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Paul, you are very defensive of your seat but nowhere have I proposed a free for all without reserved seating. Season Ticket format replaced by Membership format. No idea at all why you have gone off talking about disabled fans. You can choose to be a member and pay up front (as you do now) and keep your seat. This is your choice to pay up front (because you can) but the price is £15 per game. You can choose to be a member and pay in 12 monthly installments and keep your seat.a This is your choice and the price is £15 per game. Members get additional benefits in return for their membership. You can choose to go to any match as a walk on because of the many reasons and personal circumstances Chaddy and others have explained a zillion times but the price per game is £15. I can easily afford a season ticket Paul. I am not talking about myself.... I am talking about all Rovers fans being treated equally because they are. I am talking about the stadium being full so all fans get better value for money with a good atmosphere. I am more than happy to discuss with any ST holder from the BBE why they are not a "better fan" than me. Anyone saying they are a better fan because I have a ST or my personal circumstance allows me to pay up front is indeed displaying an elitist attitude. You could argue that the regular 400 (or whatever it was) late walk ons who pay the Waggott Tax are our best fans as they contribute most to the club.

You dont lose anything Chris. You become a member (think of the words Season Ticket replaced by the word Member). Same seat. Dont panic. This is what I mean by Elitist attitude. I have a season ticket so that makes me a better more entitled fan than others. Sorry... It does not !!! All fans should be treated with equal value and the emphasis should 100% be filling the ground that Jack built for us, rather than all this "I'm a ST holder so you can't allow tickets cheaper than mine" nonsense. I advocate ALL TICKETS to be a flat affordable price and a full stadium.

missing the point. you still have all those things such as seat etc guaranteed with your membership. You have a members card just like now. it autorenews annually so even simpler. Nothing to remember at all. You pay the same price per game as every other fan. £15. i.e. ALL fans equal.

Elitist out of date view. I am more loyal than they are which makes me a better fan. You can go for 50 years and never have a ST and yet you are not loyal ? So they can have an option to pay your 12 month membership in one payment if a 12 month direct debit is too inconvenient for super fans. Auto-renewable of course... I am all for flexiblity to facilitate all circumstances and generations. The key is that the system treats ALL fans the same and facilitates the less wealthy INSTEAD of rewarding the wealthy. As with everything in life, the innovative forward thinkers will lead the way in change. Huddersfield as one example have taken this route to answer your question.

Season Tickets = Value for money FAKE NEWS PEOPLE....FAKE NEWS ! Opportunities for the few keeping the many away from Ewood (and other grounds). Take back the peoples game and give it back to the people. Come on Mr Waggott, show your leadership and be brave. It is no longer 1970 in our great town. We need 18,000 average gates and your task is to deliver that. Think outside of this box I have to type in. We need to innovate our whole approach to selling our product to our (potential) customers.

So the fans exist and can be enticed by £10 tickets. Interesting. 8600 ×14.30 = £122,980 ST income 3000 x 22 = £66,000 walk on income or 18000 x 15 = £270,000 Conclusion. Abandon season tickets and the outdated idea they are an attractive offer in 2020. They offer no value for money because a.) The atmosphere is none existent. b.) The entertainment is very poor. c.) The potential customers cannot afford them. Flat rate of £15 per game for all supporters i.e. no discounts for the wealthy who can afford a ST. Membership available at £345 over 12 months at £28.75 per month or £15 per match. Members get benefits such as priority on away tickets, the odd voucher and free entry to U23 games but not discounted match prices. Membership auto-renews unless you cancel like everything else... so people dont have to choose to renew. They have to choose to cancel. None of this silly 1875 nonsense which adds to the "them and us" elite fan mentality. People want to simply be able to go to watch a football match when they want to and always be charged a fair price. If I get in from work 10 minutes before KO I want to go be able to choose to go down without being penilised or ripped off. I am NOT a lesser fan than the person that could decide 2 weeks before. If I am weekly paid & can only afford £20 including a pint, I want to be able to go down and watch my team. I am NOT a lesser fan the person who could afford £400 in one go for a ST in the JW. If the game is on Sky I ideally want to go to the live game and feel the atmosphere in a full stadium. If the Sky alternative is a lifeless empty stadium I will not see the ADDED VALUE of spending £30.

How did we fill Ewood against OXFORD UNITED ?

or hes just a clueless manager

OK. Fair enough.

Sorry Ozz, This is precisely what many have already done. You openly display the Waggott mentality of pay or go away? You mock the suggestion because you prefer going down and sitting in the desolation of 20 thousand empty seats? You mock because you or I can pay £45 in one hit but you don't want those who can't clogging up the half time pie queue? I would have thought they would like to sell 10,000 of these tickets. Not 2000. It means facilitating the purchase by as many potential customers as possible. Working class people from Blackburn ? Otherwise they might as well abandon this ticket now and let the same 2000 pay the walk on prices gaining £43 per person or £86,000. Who cares about attendances anyway...

The more I listen to your posts the more I think you spout the crap fed by the club instead of actually holding them to account on anything. Have you ever asked them what their plan is to fill the 20 thousand empty seats ? Pay 40 quid or take out a membership... that will work won't it. No+No = empty seat

This is a great offer (on the face of it). £15 a game, where Brentford will be on the red button for free on a cold Nov night. £45 is still a lot for some people to stump up in one go. It would have more take up if say it could be paid in 2 installments. i.e. £25 up front (to cover the first game) and £20 before the 16th Nov (to ensure the second 2 games). ? They also need to do something (arguably better) in December as well, when we have 3 more home games. I would say if you have bought the November 3 for £45 then you become eligible for December 3 for £30 otherwise there is a 3 for £45. This would mean you can get 6 games for £75 instead of £150. I don't think anyone can complain at that.

What is key here is that Mowbray set a target of 12 points from the "next 6 games" which were going to be so much easier than the very hard first 6. I would have thought a target of 15 would have been more appropriate... or just getting "3 points from the next game" one by one. So we are sat with 7 points from 5 games. The target is well and truly missed. Was it Mowbray's own target or was it a target given to him ? Is he about to become history or will he explain to us, his exciting new target for the next 6 games. Brum, Nobbers, Owls, Leeds, Barnsley, Brentford. Question is, what should this new target be ? 12 again (mediocrity or an improvement) or less (dumb down further) or more (fantasy) ? What about after missing the 3rd target in a row ? Oh yes the old "lets see where we are after Xmas" routine. Will the fans lap up his nonsense or see this is a complete waste of time ? He better not once use the defensive injuries as an excuse.

Almost sounded plausible at the time.

Blinkered 3 legged horse.

We can talk about different theoretical line ups which TM may choose to provide extra defensive cover.... I can see Evans getting a lot more game time, But I really don't see how Rothwell gets a game now.

Apparently the treatment room received a fax which simply read.... "Defenders are coming"

Murphy's Law dictates that Williams will certainly pick up an injury on international duty. Assuming Murphy shows us mercy and Williams doesn't play / get injured, for me we must now go with a back 3. There is no way we can have Bell playing ever again. For me we need to go :- Walton Nyambe Toshin Williams Johnson Bennett Travis Holtby Downing Dack Armstrong (1st 60) / Graham

Sorry Tom. Bell is THAT bad. Like almost barely good is an acceptable standard for Rovers ? Aren't we still waiting for the verdict on the Lenihan injury ?

Haha I was restraining myself from being the first to mention Judan. I'm going for Zinedine Zidane to finally make it to Ewood...and be rubbish and get fired with £25million in compo.

Phil Neville ?

Nothing more to add yer honour

I would prefer a pick your new manager poll. i.e. can we just assume he's going and make succession plans. Someone has to because the owners won't think of it.

Lenihan is also out injured....

Anyone paying attention to the last 3 years will know that TM is simply not going to play a "kid" ahead of one of his senior "men". You or I might do but TM won't. To quote Tony... "for anybody who knows anything about football...."